I'm not interested in allowing him to drag me down the same neverending arguments to be honest. Either one is faithful to God's teachings and stands up against that wish God spoke against and stand for Christ and the biblical word and morality, or one sits on the fence and hopes to have his cake and eat it too. God is highly offended by all sins and if we are Christians, we would be also. Does this mean we don't fall into them? No. Since we need Christ! But how can one "ok" something that offends God so grieviously?
I don't know. How is it that you find the strength to allow all those other religions to run rampant across your country without rising up and burning those temples of iniquity to the ground or at least demanding that your government take steps to limit their influence?
Since when do we have RIGHTS to sin? We have the freedom to commit sin, but since when is it a right? Do I have a right to kill someone? I can make the choice to do it yes, but do I have rights? Do you know that the homosexual lifestyle is an affront to the living God? It offends Him and since such sin leads a person to eternal separation from God if it is not repented of, how is this any less a sin than murder? The death of the soul is worse than the death of the body. Murder doesn't just kill the body, but deliberate malice involved in that murder can also kill the soul, unless a person turns and repents. It depends on the circumstances. So since when does anybody have a license/right to sin?
This confused me because it seems that you believe I am advocating allowing people to physically harm other persons.
You are confusing the rights that are provided by the government of my country with the requirements regarding sin in the Bible. Certainly God does not give the right to sin. He allows it and punishes those who partake and don't repent. I never said that people have the right to sin. However, individuals have certain rights in my country regardless of their religion, race, handicap, gender or sexual orientation. If I am to obey the rulers placed over me as Paul said then I should not allow laws that discriminate. I may believe that Satanism is evil but the rules of my country say that I cannot allow discrimination by my government based on religion so I cannot ask them to make Satanism illegal or ask to have the rights of Satanists infringed. The chain that we forge to limit the rights of our brothers will eventually become our own.
Linear picks and chooses which sins from the bible he agrees with, and the others that he doesn't like being "sin", he has issues with. So linear's thoughts come before God's? Sorry, if Linear wishes to live that way and tell himself what he wants to make himself feel better, that's his problem and let him deceieve himself.
Did I say my thoughts come before God's? You don't even read what I say with any sort of comprehension and you claim I am deceiving myself?
Basically it is just heresy. There truly are people around sosick that preach there is no such thing as Hell, and no problem with the homosexual lifestyle and that abortion is ok, who will then say "I'm a Christian"
(you know this yourself). They are a Christian in name only. They ok the very sins that are an abomination to the very Lord and Savior they claim to believe in and play a part in the confusion of others also. Instead of standing for morality, they give their own swing on it. Those that fall for it, or them, have themselves to blame. The bible is readily available for everybody to read.
I have said many times that I don't think these things are ok. I just don't agree that it is our place to punish people for doing them. You apparantly believe we should punish sins and leave God out of the picture.
Who comes first? The world's view? Or our Lord and Savior's view? Living in the world amongst all kinds of sin and temptation is a trial for any Christian and an ongoing temptation, which is part of the journey and tests before judgement. If we don't stay strong in our own faith, how then can we expect to help others? A liberal watered down gospel is not what Christ taught, it is instead what heretics preach.
Yes...we should go with the Lords view as interpreted by....uh...Jerry Falwell...maybe...Pat Robertson...hmmmm...Jack Hayford? Well never mind, what is important is getting rid of that liberal watered down gospel like treating your neighbor as you would like to be treated. Oh! and that messy religious freedom thing...surely that must go.
Amazingly, in an environment like Ephasus where sin abounded and some of their practices would make the homosexuals of our day blanch, Paul started a lil' ol' church that could keep themselves pure in that environment. Strangely, our church now-a-days needs the rule of law to keep ourselves pure.
Homosexuals can vote for their homosexual lifestyle being worthy of marital status, (since it seems everybody is free to an opinion and a vote) and we have every right to vote against that (since we are free to an opinion and a vote). If I vote for it? Since it is an affront to God and an affront to the holy sacrament of marriage, then how is that being a Christian? I don't condemn them, I don't hate them (I know some homosexuals and I like them as people). Just as much as I find those living in relationships before marriage, not much better. However, doesn't seem to be anybody voting against that though eh? So Linear, the world has a heck of a lot of freedom in regards to offending God.
The majority of people could vote to enslave all Muslims within the United States but I doubt that it would become law. Basic rights are not accountable to the majority vote.
So, it seems for the most part, you have your wish. The majority of sins are freely practised and accepted as normal and "ok", though they offend God greatly. Now if only they could get all states to accept homosexual marriage....and if they do manage to achieve that? What next I wonder? hang in there Linear, you might get your wish! It's already happening in some areas. Keep your fingers crossed, it might just happen everywhere.
If you get your wish, they'll be homosexuals marrying everywhere freely, offending God and offending the meaning of marriage, which was meant for one woman and one man and exposing this to children around the world who will also see this and decide it's normal and it's ok. Just an "alternative lifestyle"
Like Mummy and Daddy! Husband and husband. Forget about what Christ thinks eh?
And of course they will force you to marry a person of your sex and force you to be a homosexual....don't forget that part.
