I don't know about you RAZD, but it's exasperating reading all this, let alone participating. You are wasting your time and your knowledge on someone who will simply deny everything, no matter how much sense it makes, and who is certain that scientists are idiots and conspirators (because that is what props up his version of reality). I've been very interested to read the information you've provided but it is utterly wasted here. CTD is never going to change his point of view and I don't expect there are many "lurkers" to enlighten. You've got a lot to offer -- I wonder if there's someplace else where it could be put to good use?