Hi Bex

Your hope in the fossils being fakes is evident they are indeed a threat to the theory

I don’t recall anyone saying that the fossils are fakes. Can you show me where that was said. We have pointed out that they are misinterpreted, that they are out of context and he supplies no information so that we can put them back in. It’s pretty clear that Hurun has very little idea about this subject, just look at his own bio. Do you see any relevant credentials? Has he ever actually studied evolution? He’s read books on it from what his website said but there are an awful lot of really bad books on ToE, books by creationists who have no idea how ToE works or the evidence for it for example. Is that what he read? His book sure looks like it was the product of such an education. He displays no understanding of what ToE says, he can’t even correctly identify the species of man of his specimens. The entire thesis of his book is that ToE is false because some creatures have not changed for millions of years. This is false at two levels, ToE does not say that creatures can’t remain the same for a long time and the creatures he uses as illustrations are mostly misidentified. He compares a fossil eel with a modern sea snake for example and says ‘see no change’. That he can’t detect the differences between a modern sea snake and a fossil eel or an ancient insect and a fishing lure shows the quality of his scholarship.

Whichever way you look at it the only thing scientifically minded people should be concerned about with Harun Yahya book is that some ignorant people may be deceived and believe this guy actually has some idea what he’s talking about. Whether or not ToE is true is a separate question but false evidence presented by uneducated men with no idea what they are talking about would be laughable if it did not have the potential to mislead people on this really important issue.

Have you actually read that article you cited “THE LIFE and WORKS of ADNAN OKTAR”? It’s a gripping read. Conspiracy theorists would love it but for the more rational of us it reads like a fiction novel or the deluded dreams of a man with a mental condition which includes a good dose of paranoia. He sees conspiracies behind every tree and all directed against him because of his ‘ability to damage evolutionary theory’ but the best he can do on that front is a book full of fishing lures and comparisons between unrelated organisms of different species suggesting that they are the same unchanged organism based on the false thesis that if he can show no change over a long time for a few organisms ToE is proven false. He comes across as an uneducated (scientifically speaking) religion zealot. If that’s not the case please show me where he has actually done some real research or gained some real qualifications in the scientific fields he attempts to speak as an authority in. Otherwise I would have to suggest that he is well described by my post tag! ten thousand quacks didn't understand the paradigm, couldn't find the pedestal, or whiffed when swinging at the status quo.

I don’t want to be insulting here but show me a reason not to think that his ego is his biggest attribute here and his knowledge of the science he puts down could be written on the back of a postage stamp.

In reason

Russell