I don't believe that the world around me refutes it at all. We differ on this issue big time (not that you didnt'notice). For me Linear, it has confirmed it....otherwise, i sincerely believe I may have lost my faith. And had that faith been bogus, then no loss eh? But that faith is alive and I've had more than enough personal experience with both the demonic, and instances of God....and bitter suffering. Lots of feelings of abandonment and disallusionment also. A long journey, but I guess that's what helps form us and hopefully mould us along the way. Chipping off a few edges too.

I believe too that GOd gives us a choice and He takes that chance that we will hopefully open our hearts to Him. He works on us everyday. Each day I believe is a gift and a chance to come to Him. We do not know when that time will be cut off...Remember, the bible tells us that Hell was not for us, but for the Devil and his angels...so nobody was actually born to go there.

Yep, up early again wink Should be in bed, but caught your post and was tempted to respond. The rest of them can wait. Too involved and for now and I'm too tired.