Originally Posted by LindaLou
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Such a report could easily result from a frame-up job, if HY's group actually did expose the politician and he actually was a freemason.


I hate to nit-pick in the middle of an interesting discussion but CTD, did you look carefully at what Dawkins said about Yahya's book, including the pictures? Many of the animals in the pictures are not what they are claimed to be. In fact, one of the pictures is supposed to be that of a fly which is supposedly identical to some found in amber. The picture is actually of a fishing lure. You can even see the hook.
Actually I verified that one. The online version I DL'd has different page numbers, so I didn't take time to verify the other two.

That "experts" like Dawkins, PZ, and their followers have carefully examined every picture in the book with a magnifying glass is clearly probable. That they found 3 bogus pictures out of so many thousands yields a very, very low error rate - not that I'll bother doing the math. You can probably get a 75% figure from RAZD, and I'm confident you'd gladly accept and repeat such.

All things considered, I wouldn't recommend citing HY without verifying. But I'm not deleting the pdf's from the hard drive just yet. There's more to this story, and obtaining such a low error rate in the face of such hostile review is pretty impressive.

There's plenty of other good evidence available, and nobody's shown any willingness to learn anything anyhow (quite the opposite), so it's no big deal IMO.

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