Hi Linear,

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The God you believe in already knows the outcome of the dice roll, but He may roll the dice all the same.
He rolls the dice by allowing you to determine where your very soul will reside in eternity. He doesn't make Himself visible to everyone nor does He manipulate things so everyone will believe in His existence. We are told we are the pinacle of His creation, in His image yet He does less to turn us to the right belief than you do to your child to guide them to right behavior. Would you allow your 2-year-old to run out into a busy street? Probably not...but God allows us to effectively do just that.

The Bible says He loves us more than we love ourselves yet He allows us to choose hell. Wouldn't you call that rolling the dice?

Also, I think you have it wrong in your thinking that RAZD believes your God wants people to lie for Him. RAZD said that to point out that the people putting out the false information/videos are not actually serving your God...even if they think they are.


Sorry linear, this makes little sense. To give free will and allow for a choice is not rolling a dice. Do you think we roll a dice to see if we should be good or bad? Or do you think we make a decision with the God given mind/intellect/conscience/knowledge? Rolling a dice and relying on the outcome of that/chance to decide for me cannot even be compared with using my mind/reason and faith.

I don't believe God rolls any "dice", but I do believe that He allows for situations to develop according to decisions we have made, OR others have made. That outcome maybe a very tough lesson and suffering for those who deserve it, or a grave suffering for those who do not. Perhaps we are talking about the same thing, but using an analogy neither of agree upon? God doesn't abandon any of His creatures and is always with us, but life is a test of faith and often a tough journey for most of us. One only has to look at the life of Christ. An example of everybody, even those suffering the worst afflictions that there is hope in Him and the ressurrection.

And aside from the dice analogy/chance, I agree with your post. To allow choice is not rolling a dice. For us to choose either Heaven or Hell is not God rolling a dice and allowing the dice to choose or us to rely on chance to decide our "destiny". Our minds are not dice, our souls are not dice. They were intentionally and wonderfully made! It comes down to an intentional decision on our part that decides our destiny, not a chance roll of a dice. And I cannot imagine why you would assume a God that would do this? Why would He die a cruel death on a cross as a sacrifice for us, if it was all about dice and chance? This invitation requires an intentional decision to decide for Christ or against Him. No chance involved here.

And that is what God has given to each one of His creatures. It is a great pity that evil entered the world to test us and tempt us, but God hasn't simply left it to a game of dice. He has given us an instruction manual, a conscience, a mind and faith (should we ask for it) and the ability to pray and trust and walk the walk (whether our lives are short, or long). The Holy Spirit is involved in each one of our lives and the intercession of God occurs daily, perhaps without notice, though at times it's clear. There are miraculous occurances and interventions and so-called coincidences Linear that have and do occur. This is what makes our God a personal God, instead of a god that sits back indifferently and plays with dice and watches us do the same. THe dice decides then eh? Not us?

If that's the case, then why bother making a decision for God, since chance decides. Sorry, but I don't roll any dice in regards to my life with God. I make decisions and those decisions will affect my state in eternity. Whether I choose to sin, or choose to reject it again is up to me. No dice involved there.