Hi Russ

This truth is self-evident.

Sure it is, just as the ‘truth’ that the earth is flat is self evident, self evident and wrong. Common sense is a very poor guide to the truth once you take it outside the sphere in which it evolved.

People who believe that highly-complex, symmetrical, self-replicating machines (our bodies) developed though error-processes (mutations) are simply in an enormous amount of denial about how the world really works.

Or more likely they actually understand how evolution works. Error processes are not what drive evolution, they are a vital part of it but not the driving force. The driving force is lawful, it’s called Natural selection.

We have observed evolution inventing such things in real time in a lab in organisms under observation as I have explained before here. Do you see any flaws in the methodology or findings of the bacterial evolution experiments I have already explained to this forum? Did you miss those posts? Do I need to explain in more detail what was found because that evidence directly contradicts your statements here?

They are also in denial about the mathematical improbability of anything of the sort being able to happen without an external intelligence.

I would have to suggest that this claim too is false because we have directly observed evolution inventing complex things using exactly the mechanisms described in ToE while we watch. If the maths shows that this is impossible yet we have observed it happening then the maths is clearly wrong. Of course those who actually understand mathematically how evolution works have no problem modelling it mathematically and coming up with answers about it which do coincide with the direct observations I have explained here earlier. The problem is that YEC maths ignores Natural Selection and works out how improbable it is for mutation alone to invent the structures we see. The probability of this is indeed vanishingly small. So which do you accept the hypotheses of YEC’s with an agenda who ignore the most vital part of evolution in formulating these lame complaints against it or the physical evidence and maths of the full version of ToE which have been observed to work in the lab and in the wild?

In Reason

Russell