Here is a lie with some (granted, not too awful much, but some) thought behind it.

Originally Posted by Russell2
Information is the opposite of entropy. A very small, hot universe contains a great deal of entropy but as it spreads out and cools the amount of entroy per unit of space falls or put another way the amount of order/information per unit of space increases. That’s the second law of thermodynamics 2LoT applied to the big bang. 2LoT is a very well established rule. No one has yet been able to show anywhere that it fails to hold. Can you. If 2LoT is true order and information must arise in a universe that is rapidly expanding no god’s required.
Now the whole key to the lie is the insertion of the qualifier "per unit of space". Entropy per unit of mass is always increasing, you see. But since the density of matter decreases more rapidly than the entropy increases, it is actually so that the amount of entropy per unit of space can easily decrease.

In fact, if you want to remove entropy from any region of space, you just need to remove the matter. And you can do the opposite as well: move matter into some empty space (or condense matter) and you'll increase both density and entropy per unit of space.

However, the information content of the space will not increase in any case. Information isn't even a physical property.

It is somewhat amusing that this argument seeks to create a definition of 'information' as simply the absence of entropy; thus the emptiest places would have the most information. The Library of Congress contains less information than any give stretch of intergalactic space by that yardstick! Such is the sheer nonsense evopushers are compelled to produce.
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Because chance does not contain purpose. And information is purposeful.

You’ll have to prove this one too. I see no reason to suspect that this is true. Purpose and information are related but not in the manner you are suggesting.
Some definitions of information require it to be purposeful and some don't. But purposeless 'information' never accomplishes anything, so discussing it is moot.

We all know that under any definition, some information is purposeful. It exists, yet there is no origin available in a purposeless cosmos.

Anyhow RAZD, my complaint with your lies is that they lack thought, creativity, and imagination. You just take a true statement and say the opposite. Anyone can substitute 'isn't' for 'is'. What's interesting about the example R2 has provided, is that someone got so tired of running up against the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics that they took the time to come up with a set of circumstances and a sense in which entropy can be said to decrease (or they chanced upon it and recognized the opportunity). They used this to lead into the direct lie that information would increase. When will you display as much craftsmanship in your projects as can be seen in this one, weak though the net result may be?

I recall in the past, you had the capacity; but your evosickness has progressed too far.


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