I just read in one of Hal Huggins' books that the brutal constipation which accompanies mercury amalgam poisoning is caused by the mercury destroying digestive enzymes. My question is:
1. Does anyone out there take digestive enzymes, and do they help, or does the mercury kill those enzymes too.?
2. And I have another question. How come we, the victims, are paying through the nose for amalgam replacements instead of the perpetrator of the crime, the ADA? I don't blame individual dentists too much except for the fact that they are naive, but the ADA knows what is going on.

i just wanted to comment too, going through this episode is not only robbing us financially, but emotionally, and robbing our lives and quality of time.
i have 4 young children, and home school.
since the poisoning, i have been so distant from my children, some days, the bare essentials are all i get done.
we(the innocent poisoned people) have to invest so much time reading, investigating, weighing up informatiion, it is so consuming,like a battle to educate ourselves to get healthy, and it hurts me so much as i feel so distant from my family.


the money side is so hard,too, we have spent a fortune so far, and have not even seen the dentist yet .
lets hope, some day, our voices will be heard, i know in our own communities we will speak out, and all those "people"cashing in on amalgam profits, will be brought to justice, and also all other people who have been profiting by our unsolved symtoms,have we been set up to feed the system !!!!!! how deep dare we delve???

Hi Dallas,

1) I took some Digestive Enzymes (a few months ago) and the first pill, I felt great. But then the next meal, I didn't have the same reaction and by the third meal....I felt lousy.

So I haven't taken anymore.

2) I know it makes me very angry at the ADA and the dentists. I think some of the dentists are naive but they all aren't that stupid......they go to school....they had to learn that mercury is the 2nd most toxic substance in the world.

Even as a child, I always thought it was strange that I would go in with a very small dot of decay and when he got through I had a filling that covered my whole tooth. And all of the years that have been destroyed because of mercury.

And somehow, I've got to come up with (the last dentist I went to said $14,000.00+) and when I find out how much or actually how little the replacements actually cost and yet the dentists are charging 100 times the amount....they are all thieves......for instance, you know those little pins, that dentists like to put under the crowns, dentists pay a few dollars for a box of thousands and they charge us $18.00 for each one....thieves, everyone of them......ok, I better stop here....heh heh! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" />

Elaine

What foods can you eat that put digestive enzymes back in your gut?

Steve, as far as I know, raw fruits and veggies are good for digestive enzymes. I have read that eating a raw fruit or veggie before a meal helps. I just don't think it is enough - at least not in my case. Maybe I have to be more consistent. I'll try that, I suppose. This enzyme thing re: dental amalgam and constipation is new to me as of last night.

miriam, I have 7 children and I homeschool too. I know where you are coming from. If my memory serves me correctly, I have been dealiing with this since about 7 years of age. I am now 52. Forty-five years of misery! Off and on, of course, because that's how autoimmune is. You never know if something you have done has improved it, or if it is just in a mini-remission. I have homeschooled flat on my back in bed. The children are doing great though, with three having earned degrees (two of those 3 are working on another degree) another about to graduate, and three more to go - and doing well scholastically. But at least three of my children, are showing signs of failing health (autoimmune). It's going to be a long expensive haul.

miselaineous, You are sure right there, about the cost Trouble is, there are very few dentists who are able to do the job properly. Mine will end up being around $7,000-$8,000. We really cannot afford that, but cannot afford the alternative either. So, they have a monopoly. But, I am thankful for this. That the technology exists to relieve us of these horrible symptoms. And that I finally found out what was doing me in.

It's terrible what has been done to us all. The worst thing for me is not that they put amalgam in my mouth on the belief it does no harm, but that they (the government, the BDA, BDFA) won't admit that they made a mistake - that it causes problems in at least some people and won't offer free tests and replacement to everyone who wants it. Because they don't have the decency to do this, it makes me angry that they would rather people suffer. And worse, they continue to use this as a filling.

I will never vote for this Labour government again, that's for sure!

newbie, well done, 7 children, homeschooling, having no health problems is a busy enough day!!!!!
this time last year i had such a good schedule(even tho i was pregnant with no 4!!)
now, since this mercury stuff, the emotional roller coaster thing is draining me, reading all different views on detox, plus as i see my hair fall out every day it s hard, i sweep my hair up all day long.
so, i am having a hard time getting a homeschool schedule together, we read a lot.
you have done so well with your childrens achievements,.
you were in bed a lot ?????
on the money side,i have been quoted $5000 up.i am expecting to pay a lot more as i need a bridge removed, so 10,000 will be more like it.
its true, if we dont get in debt to get well, what do we do ????
i have not tried to petition any where as far as to govenments???
what could we do, may be compile book of our testamonies,and send it off somewhere, starting with the doctors who said"oh, you are just a stressed out house wife, homeschooling and you just had another baby !"
be well, miriam

I don't see the point in blaming the government. It's not like there's a huge conspiracy to keep you ill.

I hope I don't break any forum rules here. Steve, there is a segment of the population who think that the population is too large. If any of them are in government positions, watch out! I can only guess at what they might do to reduce the population. Two other scenarios may be possible. One is that, to be in a government position, the prerequisite is that you must be incredibly STUPID, and the kindly folks at the ADA just didn't know how incredibly TOXIC both mercury and fluoride are (not to mention all the other heavy metals they stuff into our mouths)(OOPS!). The third scenario is that the folks at the ADA don't give a hoot. They know that mercury is incredibly toxic. That's why they teach the dentists to treat it as such when disposing of it (in other places other than your mouth). But, as long as they get paid their very healthy salaries, they look the other way. They will continue to look the other way and blat their horns about how incredibly SAFE mercury and fluoride are because, thanks to dentists like Dr. What's His Name (brain fog kicking in), they have been unmasked and, they are scared to death of going under in debt due to the lawsuits they would face if this ever became known. Anyone over the age of five knows mercury is extremely toxic. But, even though the major material in amalgams is mercury they call them silver fillings to keep us poor unsuspecting guinea pigs buying the poison that will kill us.

Creating conspiracy theories is a waste of time. I understand you're mad, I'm not best pleased either, but venting your anger in this way gets you nowhere. If you really care why not put your efforts doing some kind of political activism? After all other governments have advised against, or even banned, amalgam use.

You're right, Steve. I am just angry. I have been looking for years to find the key to my illnesses. I am watching as my children's health is starting to deteriorate. I have been in pain, and so tired for years. And I find out that the cause is human negligence (at best). But, you know, it may not all be amalgams. When I was a newborn, out sleeping in the backyard in my carriage, the US government was busy, for approx. one month spraying my city with chemical warfare chemicals. I have read two articles on it. You think I should trust the government? Sorry. It's not gonna happen. But, Jesus said to forgive. I know my anger will not help. Maybe someday, after I get these amalgams out and gain back some energy (hopefully) I will do just as you have said.
Thanks, Steve

this is an interesting debate.
it is just too hard to believe or accept the fact that mercury has been allowed to be used.
it does not make sense until you may consider an underlying reason.
how could hundreds of dentists be ignorant enough to practice using the poison ???over many many years ???
a previous dentist of mine told me there is NO proof about the dangers of amalgam, that people are wasting money changing their fillings, he will not use amalgam now, as he says composite is superior,(no link to mercury poisoning so he stated) when i went to the office to pick up xrays, the recptionist would not look me in the eye, i said dr " ", is such a nice man, good dentist, why will he not speak out about amalgam, she lowered her head politely said nothing,would not keep eye contact.
is the money they earn making them loose their conciences, moral values to that degree??
in my way of thinking we HAVE to consider biblical insights.
is the medical world part of end time deceptions??
we are being decieved, so brainwashed to thinking things like we have to only treat symptoms of illnesses, keep the drug companies in business ,keeping people sick,when i first came here to usa, i could not believe there were commercials about drugs(unheard of in uk)i mean prescription drugs.
this mercury issue may even have been a planned ,people controlling plan.how much time does it take to try to get well,that is assuming a person realises it is mercury??it is taking my whole life at the moment,all our resources.
what would i bee doing normally, being with my kids,for sure,and for sure i would be freed up to be more involved with issues regarding israel, which are very key to the times we live inand important to keep up with, israel is the clock,ticking away,which affects the whole world.these are just a couple of things i have been robbed of dealing with this poisoning.so, this seems to be a dark, masked evil to me,.
hope i make some sense,governments,politicians, are actors,playing a role, its a game, ultimately.who is controlling them???
may be G-d has allowed us to go through this in our lives for a reason ?
maybe to allow a net work of people to be in contact, and somehow have a tiny insight into the real, deeper,(spiritual)forces that are the controlling elements,unseen to us, so not usually accepted.

Dallas,

I'm glad that you are venting here on this forum.....I also know how frustrating it is and I'm glad I can come here and gripe, complain and whine about the evil mercury.....tee hee! No one else really understands. And as much as we want the mercury out, we know we can't really afford it.....at least for me, I feel guilty that I want to spend this kind of money on myself.
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Steve,

I've had mercury all of my life......I've had insomnia, fear, nervousness, the list is too long to name it all. Nights when I couldn't go to sleep, I used to pray and cry and beg God to heal me. Days when I was soooo nervous, I would literally shake, my heart would race and I would studder.

I've had to sit through dentists that wanted to spend 30 minutes to an hour griping at me, because I must not be brushing my teeth.....but I was.....yet they never believed me. I had one dentist after the usual 30 minutes of griping, decided, since I've had so much dental work done, I must be used to the pain by now, so he filled a tooth without any novacane, and set there and glared at me, while he made mean comments to me between the drilling. Then while I was "getting to pay for this priviledge", the receptionist, decided that the dentist hadn't griped at me enough, so she took her turn......I was 16yo....I was working and I thought I was being responsible by making my own appointment, driving myself there and paying for it out of my own pocket.

Then when I started finding out that mercury was the cause of most of my problems and someone would say something about mercury causing this health problem or that health problem........I set in shock....thinking, geee that's me too. I mean even the little things.....I'm shocked to realize that it's because of the mercury. And when someone says they are angry because the dentists did this to them and the Government is covering it up. I know exactly how they feel and I also know that there aren't a lot of people they can say this to....so let them say it on here.....it may help them and it may help someone else.

I'm not attacking you Steve......I just want you to understand the frustration that we sometimes feel......we/they need a place where they can feel safe enough to say these things.

Elaine

miriam - I haven't a lot of time right now, but...when I am angry, like I was when I was venting and Steve corrected me I need to remember what is in the Bible. Romans 8:28 "For we know that all things work together for GOOD to those who love God, to those who are the called, according to His purposes" (emphasis mine - from memory - so may not be exact). It says ALL things - not just the things that seem good to us. A child of God can go through anything - even martyrdom - assured that God's purpose for this is for his good. I am going to seek to remember this from now on.

Steve, I thank you for your rebuke. I needed it. I know there may be conspiracies - in this evil world, that is a given. But I need to concentrate on God's goodness to me - and He has certainly been good to me.

I understand what you're all saying. I'm just concentrating on getting healthy again. I think it'd be more bitter if I had children. In fact, I'm sure of that. I also understand I'm probably luckier than most as I've had my fillings out now (mid twenties) and not later on.

I'm glad there are sites like this where we can gain help.

All the problems I've had with my health has made me want to join the green party, to put some pressure on the government.

The problem I see if that environmentalist are sometimes seen as kranks. This is due to the sometimes irrational nature of the things we say and do. This is mainly because of the anger we have, and I understand why we have it. I have it.

I just believe we need to approach things in a temerate manner, as extremists are mocked, which is hard when you see a good portion of your life and others' lives taken away by a mistake, that continues to be made, on the part of the dental associations and the government.

To get back onto the topic, I bought some pro-biotic yogurt (as they're suppose to contain digestive enzymes) and I've been hearing some rumbling down there. Hopefully that's my stomach sorting itself out.

Does anyone know how effective those yogurts are at repopulating the gut with digestive enzymes?

Hi folks!

I've been there- yes mercury does mess with the digestive enzymes. Could be why many end up getting intestinal parasites because of this- all starting with mercury filling poisoning.

The ADA could care less- the health industry in all facets is basically for Industry and profits over people anyway. Just look at Enron. Remember how heartless they were with their own faithful employees? Well that's how power corrupts those with big egos and it goes on in a larger scale even within our government as well as all health industry.

I recall reading an interview from the whistleblower FDA doctor who was outspoken against Vioxx.-- Dr. Graham. Here is a quote from the article I read in the Crusador newsletter:

....."When a former office director for the Office of Drug safety criticized me and tried to get me to change a report I'd written on another drug--Arava-- he said to me and to a colleague who was a coauthor on this report that "industry is our client". I begged to differ with him. I said, "No industry is not the client, it's the American people, the people who pay our taxes. Tha'ts who wer'e here to serve." He said NO!! Industry is our client." I ended the conversation by saying, "Well industry may be your client, but it will never be my client."

This doctor still works within the FDA and remains faithful to his convictions. He is presently being given the "silent treatment" and being blackballed by the supervisors over him. His collegues, though fearful, respect him still.


As far as Enzymes-- Yes, I would stiil continue to take digestive enzymes with EACH meal even if you have mercury fillings still. Sure the mercury may put you at a disadvantage, but you still tip the scale to your favor by taking these natural enzymes to counter the mercury effects.

Raw pineapple, Raw Papaya after each meal. Raw organic apples--especially small green ones will also give you good enzymes as well as expel a slight amount of mercury. These are also great to eat daily as you start chelation after amalgam removal.

I also drink organic Kefir. I has more Good bacteria in it than yogurt does. I've had alot of miraculous things happen to me since drinking Kefir. I dont drink it alot,-- but about once a month I buy a quart of it. You can sweeten it with fruit puree-- and sweetn it with Stevia. it's delicious!


Keep it up!
hugs,
Boldyloxx

I believe there is more to be considered in this useful debate.

I have studied conspiracy theories in depth since the early 90s. I studied primarily by searching law and judicial activities, including the U.S. code, federal register, and Uniform Commercial Code. Friends of mine and I formed study groups and spent time in law libraries and government book depositories. The result?

This was the most fascinating study I have ever done (I love doing research). Nothing comes close.

I found so many conspiracies that it was mind boggling, but you have to first understand what a conspiracy is:

"An agreement between two or more persons to commit a crime or accomplish a legal purpose through illegal action."

The fact is, the vast majority of legally traceable subversive activities in government involve 2 or more people. Some involve a large number of people. Just as the vast majority of star systems we have discovered and observed are binarys star systems (a suprising number of people don't know this), the majority of larger crimes in higher positions of government could not?by their vary nature?be accomplished single handedly.

Now, this is obviously a large study, too large to completely exposed here, however, here are a few interesting guideposts to steer the curious reader in their own studies not only of modern day conspiracies, but of the very nature of conspiracies.

Conspiracies in the Bible:

Start reading Acts 23:11. Here's an excerpt from Acts 23:13:


Start reading Ezekiel 22:23. Here's an excerpt from Ezekiel 22:25:


You can also look in Jeremiah 11:9. Use your concordance and you will find many more (Search conspiracy, conspirators, etc.).

Read this and see if you can find the conspiracy here:

http://herballure.com/ubbthreads/sh...&sb=5&o=&fpart=1

Do you believe this deceiving of the nations was known only to one man?

Check out these resources:

• UCC 1-206
• FS 671-206 (Florida Statutes, although this applies to every country - i.e. "state")
• USC Title 26 Section 861 - http://www.chrononhotonthologos.com/lawnotes/irc7806.htm
• At least 2 patents held by the American Dental Association on the manufacture of amalgam fillings. This profits about $50 million per year according to Huggins.
• Imus (In the Morning show): Imus is astounded and asks why he's been getting "beat up" by other mainstream media for exposing the mercury issue, particularly as it relates to vaccines. He doesn't "understand" what they're so upset about (Hint: think pharmaceutical dollars).
• The author of the New York Times best-selling book "Evidence of Harm" asks why he's being completely snubbed by the MM (mainstream media). He finally is able to give a full-scale, several-hour-long interview to one of the largest news organizations on the planet which airs only one sentence from the entire session: ~"there is no conclusive evidence linking autism with mercury".
• Where's the Plane?
• The Building-7 Anomaly (click the second ad)
• Media ignores relationship between AD and mercury.
• Search Royal Rife on Google. Explore how he was nearly destroyed by the government. The same nearly happened to the clinic where I had my DMPS in St. Petersburg, Florida. The FDA broke in, pointed a gun at the head of the owner and took all the documents (study results and participant records) related to a study they were participating in sponsored by the University of Texas at Austin involving I.V. Aloe; with much success, I might add. The document have "disappeard". There were no complaints, no trial, and several of the participants who were apparently in remission have since died (the study halted).
• Check out Tim Bolen's newsletters about the pharmaceutical connection to the so-called Quackbusters.
• Racketeering In Medicine (excellent)
• The Creature From Jekyll Island
• The Unseen Hand
• Vultures In Eagles Clothing
• It's All In Your Head. Read how Dr. Huggins was heavily opressed and humiliated when attempting to expose the mercury issue.
• A rebuttal I wrote to a pitiful Quackwatch article .
• Ephedra: Fact and Fiction . The pharmaceutical attempt to remove this effective herbal supplement to hedge losses from products like psudophed. Ephedra is an excellent upper-respiratory supplement.

Note: The above are just guideposts. Don't view them as the evidence I used for the existence of conspiracies. I have studied this subject for years from a legal perspective. Ironically, just as many today think that you and I are crazy for believing that amalgams cause harm, many also believe conspiracies are based on fear, but nothing could be further from the truth. It takes courage to look truth in the eye. It is those who deny without examination of the facts who are cowards:

http://herballure.com/ubbthreads/sh...&sb=5&o=&fpart=1

Heaven is not for cowards. Consider the first item in this list:

http://herballure.com/ubbthreads/sh...&sb=5&o=&fpart=1

Another useful link for researchers:
They Rule

Conspiracies, by their very nature, will have conflicting information because the conspirators have to lie to cover up their work. This allows the "general public" to simply choose which story they like best. Unfortunately, human nature dictates that many will choose the less-scary story simply because they prefer it. People also tend to follow the belief system that they believe has less risk of socially unacceptable. Naturally, they have done no research into the actual facts because it's too scary.

I encountered this often in my own studies when we had meetings to expose what we had found, many people who came to the first meeting would never come back a second time. When I asked them why, 90% of them said, "Because it's too scary".

Whenever anyone says conspiracy theorists are paranoid or ignorant, I have a feeling of sadness knowing that the accusers have simply not done their research and are simply making an emotionally-based decision?choosing what they prefer?rather than looking at the evidence and drawing a logical conclusion.

I have debated many anti-conspiracy people and unsurprisingly discovered the same artifact in each:

They are unable to overcome their own fears.

Ironically, this same human appetite for self-serving emotionalism is what crucified Christ.

Hi Steve,

I don't know how much mercury dental work you have.....so this may not pertain to you as much as it does me. Because I have tons of mercury.

But I was taking a very good yogurt(milk)-based probiotic......and I decided to take it the way they suggested, which is with every meal. And it threw me for a loop and made me very sick.

So I started reseaching probiotics and mercury and I found that mercury takes the good bacteria and changes it to a superstrain of bad bacteria.....making it meaner then ever before.

I think I found this info on toxic teeth but it's been a long time ago, so I'm not positive.

I can take 1 pill of a probiotic about once or twice a week and have no problems but if I try to take it more, then I get really sick. Also, I take a lot of Olive Leaf Extract, which kills bacteria.....I do this to keep the bacteria to a minimum.

Others may be different and they may be able to handle these things but this is just what I experienced.

Wow, miselaineous, Have you had your amalgams removed and if so, are you detoxing? I take kefir every morning and have not found a problem with it. I like to think it has kept me from getting a whole lot worse. I am not sure it has helped that much, but I feel that I need to get amalgams removed to see improvement. It's like, you cannot clean up a brook by removing pollutants in it if more pollutants are constantly coming in from an upstream sewer.

Steve, same goes for yogurt. I wonder if you still have amalgams it might keep things from getting worse, but only if the source of pollution is removed, ie; amalgams, would you really benefit. I can't remember if you have had amalgams removed.

O.K. so I'll continue to wonder about conspiracies but not get wound up about it and will continue to count my blessings. It is the only way to keep my sanity. But really, why are they trying to silence the dentists who are trying to alert us? The hygeinists at my dentist's office chuckle whenever I remind we DON'T WANT FLUORIDE!

Many will be astounded at the number of conspiracies that will be revealed one day, and not only that, they will be surprised to see that they are right under our noses.

There is a very plain and simple reason the ADA is trying to suppress the free speach of dentists about the dangers of amalgam. There is a plain and simple reason the mainstream media fails to mention the connections between mercury an behavorial disorders and autism. It's because more than one person (a conspiracy, by definition) is profiting from this misinformation. This activity is a old as mankind.

Also a note about an earlier reference to what the Bible says about all things working together for good.

You are quite right that the Bible says that all things work together for good to those who love God and are called according to His purpose. However, it's also important to note that the Bible does not say all things are good, only that all things "...work together for good...".

Just thought I'd mention this as it is an important yet often overlooked attribute of this passage and may be helpful to understand the issues of life more clearly.

All the best!

Hi Dallas,

No, I still have all of my mercury fillings.

Thanks to all of you who wrote about digestive enzymes. I tried eating an apple or a cucumber before each meal and that helps somewhat with the constipation issue. Then I tried (double strength) digestive enzymes that I got from the health food store. Forty plus years of horrid never-ending constipation ended with one little pill taken before each meal !!!! Whoever said that constipation (in some cases) is caused by mercury destroying digestive enzymes and that it can be helped by taking digestive enzymes is absolutely correct! Everyone with this problem should try it.

Some other things to do to help with constipation are to drink tons of water and take magnesium. Magnesium helps with many mercury symptoms and most of the time I tell people to stay away from magnesium citrate as it draws water into the bowels, but this will be good in your case. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />