Appreciate your time in responding from your perspective Russell. It may seem like "20 questions", but just wanted to see this from an evolutionist's point of view.

You asked me for proof of purpose? It is self evident. Purpose/order/laws/information/form/force exist all around us and must do, or what then do we have as a result? Everything works together and relies upon the other. As I have said many times on here, the probability of all this coming from a non information/non intellegence is "non sensical", considering all these things and how they work together. To assume that it came out of some kind of explosive event to my mind is actually unscientific. This explosive event must have had the mathematical intellect of a genuis, with fore-knowledge, expertise and exquisite precision!

I don't see how our beginnings could ever be in chance, since our own world dictates that life/information exist before anything meaningful can arise/continue. Can you give me an example of what doesn't? It seems scientifically impossible, given the information required for even the most "simple" of life (If you can call any life truly simple. Since the most "simple cell" is still incredibly complex).

In fact, science itself would not exist if there was no purpose/order/meaning and how would anything even be studied with such? The information contained in the DNA code is a specific programme and is also ordered. Dictating by its very information exactly what the product is (whether human or animal). Do you think given billions of years that somehow time has the magic to produce anything? can you really give credit to a "process"? Since even a process requires a starting point of information to unfold.

No I do not believe we are simply "animals", but you are free of course to believe this. I believe the "human animal" (if you wish to call us that) has within a living soul that is subject to judgement by it's ultimate law giver/designer. Animals, unlike us, are not subject to personal judgement according to my belief. However, we are polar opposites on what we believe about our beginnings and endings, so I'll leave that part where it is and carry on below.

All life (as far as I'm aware) has a beginning and end .....even stars have a beginning and an end. If you can let me know of anything around us that is not actually wearing down (wearing out) let me know. As far as I'm aware, this is the natural order of all things. A winding down. Rust, decay, deterioration/ageing unfortunately exist in everything I know of...Even scientists admit the same about our world/universe. Certainly, if this were not the case, how then do they explain pinning such ages on it?

So yes there had to be a beginning, because with beginnings is a winding down. Without a beginning, time would not exist, nor would ageing. And if there is a beginning, then there is a purpose. The start of anything has intent. Can you give me an example of meaning/form coming from chance without already ordered information?

So as evolution is a scientific theory, theories should be tested. Can you give me an example of a test that proves what i have asked above? If you have done this already, I apologise. I am not always on this forum and have been unwell and not up to debate these days.

All the best to you too Russell.