R2: Putting words in my mouth now? Where did I proclaim myself to be a genius?

J: Just referring to your little slogan at the bottom. Right now, consider the source. I'm personally a self proclaimed b***h at this time. Seriously....all elements are combined to turn me sour at the moment. I'll get past it. I get tired of words being put in my mouth, though, too. I don't completely identify with any particular "ist" group personally. Have my own ideas on some things. I'm most definitely Christian (although many "Christians" would disagree simply because I'm Mormon). Being on here has been a real eye opener and right now I'm feeling like telling off the world. But I have to agree with the more fundamentalist Christians on the creation.....even if I do think the world itself is older than YEC's think. (Just because the word create actually means organized.....or the word create was translated from actually means that - so I believe, yes, the materials on this earth COULD be billions of years old (or eternal, even, but obviously OLD). I don't know how long the creation itself, took, either. No one does for sure. I think personally it must've taken at least 6,000 years and maybe more. But I think Adam and Eve were the first humans....placed here as they were in adult form before the breath of life was breathed into them (When their spirits entered their bodies)and that man's history goes back just as stated....approximately 6000 years. If there are things in existence that somehow refute that....it is dated wrong. There seem to be some paradoxes - agreed - but they do not take away from believing in the creation for me.

However, for you to turn the argument away from how you personally see it which I don't believe involves faith of any kind (????) is pretty much a dodge isn't it? IMO - the world in general pretty much picks out which truths they will accept to go along with what they believe on a larger scale. (As do I). I do believe the Bible to be the word of God.....even if we do believe a few words have been taken out here and there through the years which change subtle doctrinal issues...But nothing is so starkly different that it does not hold to the same basic tenets of Biblical Christianity. And that includes the creation!

Which is it for you, though? In one message you are discounting anyone having supernatural experiences....even some I've either had myself or witnessed close hand. (Like saying my husband's dreams about plane wrecks were just coincidence......these are not common ordinary dreams - more like visions - and with EVERY ONE there is a correlating real plane wreck usually the following day. As far as the smell in the pillow....perhaps. But he holds the Priesthood and blesses our home with it. In our opinion, he was led to find that faulty lamp. That smell did not permeate the house. The lamp was downstairs. The only place he smelled it was his pillow till the night he went downstairs and found it nearly smoldering. There ARE unseen forces - sometimes watching over us. Many times they are loved ones who have passed. There are many small miracles I could blow off as coincidence, as well, but I acknowledge the source of those blessings instead. When I pray, the difference is palpable. I could give lots of other experiences, but you wouldn't see them the same cause you didn't experience them and are already coming to the table with doubts!

Whether you believe it or not, we all have spirits that existed before we came to this earth. Our minds don't remember it cause they are fresh slates, so to speak, but when we die, those spirits will again be released from our bodies and we will remember our pre-earth lives again. When we are resurrected we will all be once again, reunited with our bodies...only they will be immortal. We will inherit different kingdoms, though, according to our level of faithfulness here or once we were given the opportunity to know and understand the truth.

Blah blah blah. I imagine this is going in one ear and out the other. Have a nice day