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Excellent. Then I believe it's a good thing—a real blessing—that we are able to watch Ron perform a masonic handshake (twice). I personally believe that this is vital as we who have studied the state of secret societies today have to be aware of how completely they have saturated both sides of every organization.

Remember: "Controlled opposition" is their MO.



When you questioned this originally, I looked back through the entire video (as I did before I originally posted it), and honestly, I do not see a single evidence of "obvious" manipulation.

I have been doing image processing for about 15 years now (besides being a computer programmer, hardware designer, and website designer), and in my opinion, I don't see any clear evidence of manipulation.

Again, point out to me specific shots and I will be happy to look them over.



Not true.

Image manipulation leaves artifacts. You know this. You don't need originals to prove it. Just point out which shots you believe to be faked and we should be able to artifacts.



With all due respect, I completely disagree.

Manipulating images in a way that shows little evidence of tampering is very difficult, especially when they involve gradients close up.

This is why graphic designers get paid so much. Clean graphic manipulation is meticulous, and very time-consuming.

It's easy to manipulate images. It very hard to do it without leaving obvious artifacts.



The chemtrail project, despite being literally in our faces, is a obviously a secret project, so knowing the true intent is not easy.

What is easy is knowing what they contain and that they are harmful, and when we know what they contain (which we do), then we can make some fairly good guesses as to what they are intended to do, and many have.



Good point.

Two responses here.

First, I believe that chemtrails are not more subtle than the upside down cross. Chemtrails are huge, enormous, and displayed openly in numerous cities across the world. Everyone who simply looks up can see them. The inverted cross is more subtle because it's not often displayed, and only then for a short time. Furthermore, many people do not know what it means.

Second, you say that "even you" knew what an upside down cross "means". I think a surprising number of people don't, and even then, the catholic church comes up with an explanation that it is the cross of Peter.

Having studied these secret societies for some time, I know that they often make excuses for the symbols they display to the common people.

Remember, these symbols are not meant to be understood by the common people. They are the method in which co-conspirators communicate with each other, identifying themselves. They excuses to the common people are just that, excuses. They don't care what you think about the symbols. They are not for you.

I had this exact same experience with the mormon church.

I pointed the myriad of occult symbols that exist on their temples and in various other places, and they just made "commoner" excuses for them.

I know what they really mean and I know God well enough to know that He graciously allows us to see them openly so we can know who is who in this deception. God is very kind that way.

These symbols are taken very seriously by occultists and they believe that these symbols have power. In fact, occultists put their faith in these symbols. They use them to gain power.

My faith is in Yahweh: The God of the Bible.

The only power I have is the power God gives me. I am not to seek power in this life, but righteousness through Emmanuel: "God with us".

Again, I don't mean to offend, but I do have to speak the truth as I understand it, and I provide this forum for others to openly do the same, even if it differs from my understanding.

There are a lot of good people here. We can learn from each other, so let us reason together and all will benefit. Again, this is the purpose of this forum.

I do (as do many) appreciate your input, even if we disagree on some things.