Did anyone see the episode of House (Season 4, Disc 1 to be exact) where he sees a kid in the ER who had died briefly in a car wreck. He was so happy when he died that he went in a week later and stuck a knife in the plug so he could finish the job. (Don't know why he did that in a hospital?? But he did end up dying. Maybe it was so they could keep him comfortable? He'd had so much internal bleeding the final trauma was not recoverable). Anyway - then someone else has an experience which piques House's curiosity so House actually experiments by sticking a knife in a plug, too, doing it just as the Dr. he'd called shows up (to bring him back) and kills himself briefly. I guess we could try that??? (Just kidding). Actually there is a Mormon Dr. he's looking at hiring he is endlessly tormenting as well...who ends up punching him out too : ) Anyway - he doesn't see anything when he dies, so concludes there is nothing afterall....

But there are lots and lots of people who do have experiences when they die temporarily which tell them there is, indeed, something after life. Personally I have lost a father when I was quite young...and just recently my big brother and the year to the day (by 1 day) my grandmother. My grandmother has made herself known..... I am not going to disclose the entire experience, but she has definitely visited and for periods of time.... We have almost all her journals here at the house and I even have her wedding ring from her first marriage. She knew I loved her. It is my opinion she waited to die till I came back from Alaska. I asked her to!!! I have felt my brother's presence as well. His death has been very hard on my and one day while I felt unconsolable he came to me. I KNOW he is there. I also had a visit in dream form from my father when I was pregnant with my 2nd daughter. He reached out and touched my belly when I said, "look daddy, I'm pregnant." No one could convince me this was an ordinary dream. After that I also had a visitation from a prophet who had passed. The dream told me of an event to come. (And it came!!!)

I don't think God hates those of you who don't believe in him...or know for sure. I would hate to think you would have to have some kind of very serious event happen to convince you of His existence. The truth is....we all knew him before as spirits. The spirits inside us know..... We are spirits inside of an immortal body. Its the spirit's entrance which gives the body life. And when it leaves, the body is left without life. Nothing could be simpler. Our spirits are eternal....That is hard to comprehend. But because of Christ overcoming death, we will all be resurrected. There are approx. 1/3 of the original spirit children who did not receive and will not receive bodies due to rebellion in the premortal life. (luficer and his followers). They won't have bodies to be resurrected to and are, most definitely, eternally damned. Those of us here on the earth already passed our "first estate" and earned the right to have bodies. Now, though, we are being tested....and are required to use faith which is belief in things we can't see or touch. Our present bodies or brains have no memory of this pre-earth life (except if you tune in and listen close...). When we died we either go to what is called spirit paradise, or spirit prison. It may reflect the states of our mind. Some say it is right here on the earth but not sure about that. Perhaps its the spirit prison which is?? (In a spiritual dimension, obviously). We will eventually be assigned to one of 3 degrees of glory, Celestial, Terrestrial, or Telestial. (Or the glory of the sun, moon or stars from 1st Corinthians.)

I'd gone to church my whole life, but after my dad died started really looking into what I had been taught in the various churches. I wasn't finding any real answers to my questions... Now I have them. We still don't know exactly how long the creation took, though. It hasn't been revealed yet at this time and isn't considered as pertinent to our salvation. I hold that the earth, since I believe it was organized from pre-existing materials, could be made from very old materials.....But don't think the creation itself took millions of years to happen. But we don't know how long each creative "day" or period was exactly. I believe in adaption and evolution in that sense, but not that higher forms evolved from lower forms. As I tried to state....the kinds are limited in their evolution with their own "kinds." (Birds, fish, fowl, beasts, creeping things, insects, etc. as specified). We are a higher creation and were created as such...

Last edited by Jeanie; 09/04/08 09:34 AM.