Hey LindaLou! I've been trying to find this one to answer. I worked today and our air has been out or leaking, actually, so we had to turn it off and we've been dying.... Anyway, I will address this now. Nice to see a nice friendly face on here right now : ) (You sound like you're doing well??)
You said: The creationist who denies this process has to explain where the boundary between "kinds" is. Presumably they believe that these gradual changes have to stop at some point. So where is that point and how is it defined? What is a "kind" and what sort of variation do you accept within a kind? Are birds and dinosaurs the same kind?

Jeanie: I've been trying to find this to copy and paste, but will need to type....

"Pres. John Taylor wrote as follows: "The animal and vegetable creations are governed by certain laws, and are composed of certain elements peculiar to themselves. This applies to man, to the beasts, fowls, fish and creeping things, to the insects and to all animated nature; each one possessing its own distinctive features, each requiring a specific sustenance, each having an organism and faculties governed by prescribed laws to perpetuate its own kind. So accurate is the formation of the various living creatures that an intelligent student of nature can tell by any particular bone of the skeleton of an animal to what class or order it belongs.
"The principals do not change, as represented by evolutionists of the Darwinian school, but the primitive organisms of all lving beings exist in the same form as when they first received their impress from their Maker.... If we take man, he is said to have been made in the image of God; for the simple reason that he is a son of God; and being his son, he is, of course, his offspring, an emanation from God, in whose likeness, we are told, he is made. He did not originate from a chaotic mass of matter, moving or inert, but came forth possessing, in an embryotic state, all the faculties and powers of a God. And when he shall be perfected, and have progressed to maturity, he will be like his Father---a God; being indeed his offspring. As the horse, the ox, the sheep, and every living creature, including man, propagates its own species and perpetuates its own kind, so does God perpetuate his...
"Paul in speaking on the resurrection, refers to the different qualities of flesh as follows: 'But God giveth it a body as it hath pleased him, and to every seed his own body. All flesh is not the same flesh: but there is one kind of flesh of men, another flesh of beasts, and another of fishes, and another of birds.' (1 Cor. 15: 38-39).
"These different qualities seem to be inherent in the several species, as much so as the properties of silver, gold, copper, iron, and other minerals are inherent in the other matter in which they are contained, whilst herbs, according to their kind possess their specific properties, or as the leading properties of earth, air, and water, are distinct from one another; and hence, on physiological grounds, this principle being admitted, and it cannot be controverted, it would be impossible to take the tissues of the lower, or, indeed, of any order of fishes, and make of them an ox, a bird, or a man; as impossible as it would be to take iron and make it into gold, silver or copper, or to produce any other changes in the laws which govern any kind of matter. And when the resurrection and exaltation of man shall be consummated, although more pure, refined and glorious, yet will he still be in the same likeness without variation or change in any of his parts or faculties, except for the substitution of spirit for blood." (Mediation and Atonement, pp. 160-161).

THere is more to add but for now, am going to send so I don't lose it. Also visitors coming over. I know I'm going to get flack...but there you have it : ) (From the religious folk...)






















































































































































eased him, and to every seed his own body. All flesh is not the same flesh; but there is one kind of flesh of men, another flesh of beasts

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