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There are many things that a theory of the beginning of the universe must explain, why do all of the stars we see rush away from us at a speed proportional to their distance from us? Why does the universe contained the ratios of elements that it does? And many many more. Big Bang theory explains these things and it predicted not just the existence of the cosmic background radiation years before it was observed but the details of how it would look. How does the bible explain these details? God did it is hardly a detailed, testable or useful explanation though it would be interesting if it could be shown to be true.



Hi Russell,

We come to entirely different conclusions as to what caused these wonders of life to come into existence in the first place. Yet your post does nothing to disprove creation at all, but instead seems to emphasise the same questions one must continually ask themselves regarding all of this around us.

Much has been presented on this forum by the way in favour of biblical history, perhaps you have failed to read the older posts? So by saying it doesn't exist, probably won't change much.

Explaining these wonders via a miraculous big bang that you hasn't been tested/observed or proven, nor has it been repeatable and giving this as "proof" for your theory, does the theory more harm than good and if that's science, then I'd be ashamed to teach this in a classroom. Your post has instead put across more questions than answers. I've read the post more than once and nowhere does it disprove creation or prove evolution. In fact, the universe by its very design, balance, laws, demands intelligence and design, rather than a random explosive event that does nothing to explain the incredible intriciate balance of all things that rely upon the other to come into existence, and be sustained. You could say it's mathematically perfect, for if one thing is off kilter enough, the rest fall apart. How then does it all come into existence in the first place if it requires such perfection to continue?

How do you explain good and evil in regards to just "nature"? Why is there any moral code and conscience? How can a human being have conception of morality if we arose from an explosion, rather than purposeful intent? If we arose from a random event with no intent/purpose/intelligence, how is it even possible for an idea to arise, if the existence of "ideas" did not exist in the first place?

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On the other side, if we are to take the biblical position seriously, how could a choice made by two people long long ago affect DNA replication today? How could sin affect the genetics of organisms across the entire globe unless god set the system up specifically to do so? If he did that by what mechanism did he achieve it? Is genetics today an example of god tinkering in the details all the time? Or did he, in a fit of pique, maliciously remove some repair mechanism that formerly kept our genetics on the perfect path. Can you show me a rational, testable theory from your world view, for the world we see around us today?


When the first two human beings sinned and disobeyed God, they brought a curse upon themselves and the entire world. The corruption of the world and deterioration of original genetic perfection, according to the bible, began after the fall, but the deterioration was more marked over time through each generation if the biblical time scale and age rate is correct (I believe it is). If all things come originally from God, they rely upon God and if we have sinned against God, we have in a sense, against nature and ourselves. Now, trying to make God look like the "monster" in all this, is really not going to achieve anything, other than convince me that perhaps this is your reasoning behind believing evolution? because you feel God is mean...so therefore evolution is the better and kinder explanation?

As I am not a scientist and have not studied the human genetic code, nor do I understand exactly how it would have unravelled, I hardly see how you expect me to do a scientific theisis on it. However, since you have brought the subject up, I assume you have?

Perhaps you could provide a clear cut scientific explanation for it via evolution....just remember that a scientific explanation does not automatically cancel out creation and prove evolution, simply because it's "science". There are differing interpretations of something, even by those on the same side. Denying the beginnings of this, simply because it may include a creator, still, so far, does nothing at all to help or prove your theory.

The burden of proof continues to lie with the evolutionists, as this is what is being taught in a science classroom. If you cannot prove your theory scientifically with testable, observable evidence, then you may have to consider it's not a scientific certainty. Which means you haven't got it wrapped up and still cannot wipe God off the map smile