RAZD: Yep, fantasizing over what may have been, especially if things were entirely different (Jeanie's "lots and lots of variables") is a fun pastime.

Jeanie: RAZD, it seems YOU are the one desperate to DISPROVE the creation. All I mean by variables is that you have no way of knowing what all may have happened between the flood and now which could change the environment.

I don't see either what the big deal is with mutations and all that and how that would prove against the creation. My husband told me the other day scientists are looking for the "God" gene. Does that mean...what? The main directive one (from an evolutionary viewpoint)? How do you explain that all the DNA looks the same and then differentiates for the individual organs?