Abishag, I just reread this. I would be happy to read your views if you want to type them out. (The paper). (Can you just cut and paste? Sounds like a lot of work). I like to understand how people see things. Its up to you. My email is on the user list. I'm glad you sent an honest response. I would rather have that than just be blown off or accused of heresy or whatever. You have always been kind.... If nothing else, I would prefer to agree to disagree such as Lynn and Russ and I have agreed to do, but still keep an open dialogue somewhat... (even if its not discussing said issues : ) But I'm open to other viewpoints, although, very strong in my own viewpoints....