Hi all,
I apologize if this has been asked before. But is there a good home mercury/heavy metal test kit that is available without doctor referral?

www.mercout.com has a urine challenge test for mercury only (not for other heavy metals).

A challenge test isn't worthwhile though. It won't tell how poisoned your body is. the only thing it might tell is how effective that chelating agent is in your body at that specific dosage in removing mercury. If it is at a very high dosage though, then it might not even be indicative of how well that chelating agent works in moderate doses. The amount of mercury excreted in a challenge test is not in proportion to the amount in the body.

I've heard that and that was how I tested. Still, I do believe I have a heavy load. I must've had mine out 8 years ago without much chelation. With hot flashes and the heat here, I have no problem sweating, though, so maybe I'm clearing some naturally?? I hope so. I know I need to get more proactive. I kept forgetting to take my Clear and Algin yesterday while working... So missed a day already. Today i think the parasites are hungry, too, (hungry!) but i've been good even though my husband bought me a peppermint patty which is sitting in there in the fridge : ) I asked him not to do that if even for blood sugar issues. Just knowing I even have some in me is good enough cause none should be....either way - if its in there its not good. I'd definitely protect yourself if you use it, though, cause you are dumping some in your blood!!!

Andy Cutler warns against it, though, which I found out after I did it... It can be very dangerous. Some haven't recovered. Not the best option

There is no good test. Look at your history. Do you or did you have many mercury fillings? If you had them replaced, how long ago was it? Did you do anything to remove mercury from your body?

What about muscle testing?

Testing is not the answer. One needs to first have their mercury fillings replaced,do a parasite and candida cleanse, then do chelation to remove mercury stored deeply in your body. There is no practical way to find out how much mercury is in your body(after someone passes away, biopsies of all the organs could be tested for mercury). Even if there was, it wouldn't tell you how it is affecting your body.

Thanks for all your responses. I'm unable to have the 9 amalgams removed just yet, due to severe adrenal dysfunction. Was just curious what my mercury burden may be.

I just ordered a home test kit. I just want to know if I have mercury coming out and get a ball park.

I wouldn't.... You pretty much know you have mercury if you have amalgams. If you do, though, protect the hell out of yourself.... Educate yourself on how to!!! (My carpal tunnel is hurting so I'm keeping posts brief or I'd expound more).

I have to see for myself. It's already ordered anyway. I can't afford it but feel I need it. I thought also it could help me know when I am free of this stuff.
Also, the world makes me feel like it's 'all in my head'. As soon as you mention panic attacks all doctors, pyschologist etc don't take any physical sysmptom as being anything more than all in your head.

I have been educating myself for years on this. The last 6 years have been hell for me and I abused myself. I feel in a better place at the moment to try and tackle this detox once again.

I just wish I could get some understanding and help.

I did a challenge test. Yikes! Then I found out that it is very dangerous. Therefore I really wouldn't recommend it either.

I'm not even sure my results were that high, but looking at the symptoms Dr. Cutler lists, I know I'm mercury poisoned. That's all I need to know.

I did, too. (Did the challenge test and THEN found out they were dangerous). My results went off the charts, though. I know its not accurate, but do think from symptoms my levels have been pretty danged high. At least I can say I've proven it... (for what that is worth...)

When I did the symptom list I rated about 97% toxic. I won't be doing any challenges. I am too scared of that. I am thinking I will test as is and see what results I get then take a small amount of chlorella, small amount, and see what comes out.

I did the test as did my two children (before I had ever heard of Andy Cutler of course). None of us had any side effects at all. And I will say that the results came back exactly as I would have predicted. Myself and my youngest were highly elevated (we were both highly symptomatic and I had dental work done when I was pregnant with him) and my other son was borderline (as are his symptoms - some minor attention issues). But I guess we don't know who is going to be the one to react badly so caution is needed. Have you had a hair test yet? I believe you can get one without a physician through Doctor's Data and just see if you have screwed up mineral transport (which I did as well).

I am just doing a home test. I can't afford to have the hair test. I couldn't afford to have it done with the amalgam removal either. I couldn't even afford the biocompatibility test either so the dentist chose a low reaction white filling.

Yeah I know what you mean with the "proving" aspect. My hair started to fall out about 8 months ago and I joined a hair loss forum to talk to other women with this problem. They do not believe me that it can be caused by heavy metal poisoning. Showing them numbers helps out a lot!

How high were your results if you don't mind me asking. Mine were 30ug/g, which was in the elevated range. However I'm not that sure if it's that bad. Andy Cutler says that everyone tests positive for it.

I have the results somewhere. I went to the highest testable result is all I remember. I have battled dealing with skeptics for a long long time. I even start talking about diets of any kind at my SIL's house (at Christmas was telling my niece about the blood type diet cause she asked) and she just flat out says (no questions...no effort to know or understand whatsoever) "well I don't believe it...." I use to work in a Doctors office which was alternative back in the early 80s. I then ended up working at a medical clinic and one of the Doctors I really liked knocked using herbs. He even wrote papers on it. Of course being a Doctor some people are going to listen to him. Not sure why he feels so strong.... He was a good man. I had a neighbor friend I went to church with, too, who's husband was a dentist and even in our Bishopric. He poopooed it when I found out I was poisoned. Now he's an oral surgeon. I think in his case and other's, sometimes people just don't want to believe such a thing and believe the "establishment." (The ADA). I tried to tell my BIL about kidney cleanses about 15 years ago when we were at their house and he had a kidney stone. He was popping percocet cause he was in so much pain.... He told me he didn't believe in that stuff and listened to the Doctors... (And THAT was serving him well!!!) I've seen so much of that crap in my life. I don't mean this arrogantly, but its hard when you know you're right and people are too stubborn (or stupid??) to believe you. So many just go along with the status quo like sheep...My husband after all these years (and having his own doubts..) tells me now I'm always ahead of my time. Its on the news now matter of factly. I told one Dr. about my test, though, and he ordered a blood test to check for mercury to "verify" for himself. (Of course it didn't come back pos. cause I wasn't chelating). I thought about chelating then and trying again just to prove it to him but decided to drop it. I know I got him thinking. We had respect for each other. Another Dr. was an osteopath and friend. We went to church with both these guys. I left Andy's book on his desk for him to look at cause I thought he was open minded but he wouldn't look in it after he noted all the diseases this can cause on the front cover. He didn't believe it nor would he even look into it. Here I'm naively thinking he could make a difference in his position. Wow. That was an eye opener. This guy infuriated me by the time we left AK. I got my records to take with me and he'd put in there I was medically non-compliant. What really happened was that he had me on toxic dosages of Armour Thyroid cause he didn't know what he was doing and then told me I was manic. I told him I was on too high a dose and he raised it... I went behind his back while he was on leave (he was my PCP) to an internist who told me NOT to go to him for my thyroid - that he would see me. Now I'm on half the dosage this other guy had me on. I was bouncing off the walls. He did not want to be told HE was wrong but HE was taking my life in his hands and hurting me! When I refused his DX of me he pulled rank and said I was medically non-compliant. He just didn't like that I made him look bad in front of his "colleagues." Now he's retired and growing fat on the checks the drug company give him for the drugs he pushes. I love the other Dr. still. I have no respect for this guy, though. (My faith or not). He also got fresh with me while twisting me up like a pretzel once for one of his "adjustments." He was a sick man... Sorry....got me going there : ) I don't give my trust over easily any more, though. But back to the point, there will be naysayers. I've just learned to keep my mouth shut anymore which is kind of sad. People don't get it till it affects them personally as a rule.

I can totally relate. No one wants to hear this stuff. My family used to laugh at me until my sister got a brain tumor. They are much more understanding now.

On the hair loss forum, after a very long post talking about mercury in vaccines and dental amalgams, I was called this by someone.

"I know I can't change your mind, but I think I'm within my rights to tell you that I find your views on this myopic, self-centered, dangerous and somewhat conspiracy theorist...But I certainly wouldn't want to live in a nation where every parent adopted your views."

That's what this country is made up. Stupid ignorant people like that who would rather feel good about themselves and hold onto their pride than to get informed. We are in trouble!

The sad fact is, though, that dentists are the most vulnerable! The ones who still use or did use amalgam are poisoned themselves. It isn't pleasant to face all this stuff. I don't want to be overly paranoid, either, but its a toxic world now. And I think most people do have mercury in them but don't know what is going on. I use to tell my niece that milk was mucous forming. She came down to visit and was very sick with a sinus infection and was downing milk with chocolate syrup one glass after another. (Yet disgustingly she is a lean little thing...just built to be). She wouldn't hear it when I tried to connect the two. Their family is always sick. Same with my SIL. They own a donut shop and those kids were sick all the time growing up. We really don't get sick a whole lot. (I say this while having a sore throat and having had a UTI a while back). I have chronic issues, but don't get colds very often cause I saw the correlation with milk and my sinus issues years and years ago.... Same principal... Had to just learn to ignore those kinds of issues with them. My SIL, though, refers to me as one of "those people" with regards to silly little things like avoiding MSG, etc. : ) Now my nieces MIL is getting it from them. (And I've come to the conclusion it is most definitely THEM...not me. I've bent over backwards to see their viewpoints and even lowered my own standards for them at their house at least. I inevitably get sick, too. They push and push it and completely ignore my tastes or even allergies AND my kids intolerance to dairy and if I bring it up eyes are rolled. All they serve is ham, dairy and donuts : ) (Oh - and soda. I asked to drink some of their bottled water when I was there last - they offered all the soda you could drink, but I'm not a soda drinker.... That got to my SIL so bad she brought it up since when she came to visit here cause her daughter lives in this state. She actually told my husband "I don't remember having bottled water when we were kids." If I have people at my house with health issues that require a special diet, or even preferences like vegetarianism I completely respect it and cater to it. You can go too far in that, too, but can't for the life of me get them ignoring something that actually causes negative effects.

It sounds like there is what I call a subculture now to categorize those who are aware of things. (Conspiracy??) Yep - sure is!!! I don't want to believe it either, but its pretty bad when even people like Jim Carrey and the guy from KISS have kids with autism and are coming out against it. This is kind of new to me...all the forums and online societies. It saved me when I was homeschooling though....(Online support) That would be a whole other but related in a way subject. But I am so proud of my girls and how they've turned out now!!!! I did the right thing. (Not saying everyone should, but it was the right decision for us).

I am in the same boat. People just think I am speaking quackery. A friend of mine is showing classic candida, leady gut symptoms but he won't do anything about it. Unless a doctor tells him and gives him a pill he dosen't want to know about it.

He was starting to think he had cancer and I was saying it's not cancer, you just need to do this and that to prove it to yourself but he went and had all the tests only to be told nothing is wrong with him. Even though he isn't absorbing food.

Sometimes a person likes to hear your ideas and they keep it in mind which is nice. I do have one friend who says if they ever get cancer they are coming to me for help.

I consider it planting seeds. Sometimes people just aren't ready to hear it. Even with all the heart burn my SIL has caused, I think I've influenced them to be more health conscious by example. That is always stronger than preaching. Even I hate it when someone tells me what to do or gets too much on their band wagon with things. I've had to learn to cool it I guess. Still, when you see things and/or just found them out yourself, etc., you want to share! The other day at work I refused a cookie and people took notice.... Not doing it for that. Actions really do speak louder than words, though. (Small matter there, but sugar is a downfall most of us share).

I did read somewhere a while back that candida can lead to cancer.... Scary... And iridologist explained the leaky gut thing to me (or I read it??)... Anyway - I notice when I eat something and feel gunky its not something my body wants. Your small intestines, etc. cause the mucous to surround things that aren't good for you and after eating these things over and over regardless...it builds a lot of mucoid placque over time throughout the intestinal tract. I try to listen to how my body responds to foods.

It has been nice chatting (and blowing off : ) with you today. Welcome to the forum!!

My husband and I went to his mom's house for a small family gathering. They all decided they were going to order pizza...so we made the effort to eat before we went. It's sometimes very hard to sit there watching people chow down on food that is in the very least full of MSG, probably GMO wheat, growth hormone filled cheese and washing it down with high fructose corn syrup drinks. Ugh!

Then the overweight relatives sit there and make fun of me and my husband because we are thin. They are more than just a little overweight... /sigh However if I started to say how fat they were, they would be so mad. Somehow the other way around is okay though.

Yes it was nice chatting with you. I'm gonna hang out around here more often. lol It's so nice to meet open minded people!

Did you catch that my SIL and her husband own a donut shop?? Need I say more? I had told her I'd put on some weight around Christmas and she actually said accusingly..."you said you'd gained weight...well I don't see it!! " (I'm not kidding). Well..I'm sorry... What do you say to something like that? She really has been vicious to me which I'm not even getting into. But if I said the things she had said to me I would never hear the end of it. I just bite the bullet for the most part. I have retalliated a bit...about 4 or 5 times in the 25 years I've known her, but she has never really accepted me fully. Then again, not sure she accepts anyone including herself! I think that is the problem with most people. You have to actually love yourself before you are capable of loving others.

What you wrote on flouride was very interesting! My husband thinks its good for you. I never let the kids or myself get treated with that. I've also dealt with attitudinal dental assistants... : )

You should have made a pizza and taken a safe one.

I've never got tested for mercury...

When you've had fillings in your mouth all your life and exhibit every symptom of mercury poison its not something that I ever needed to prove to myself.

But...if I am explaining it to somebody...to avoid doubt and conflict...if someone asks I do say that I got tested and had high levels of mercury. Just makes it easier that way.

Many people who doubted me have come back and told me that they realized I was right. Learning can be a very painful process and many people would rather not think about these things.

Yeah having a donut shop in the family would be terrible. I would try to turn it into a positive by using better ingredients, but that means your family would have to admit there is a problem first. Blah I've gained some weight this year too. I just can't seem to do anything to get rid of it either.

Well no pizza is safe for my husband. He is on a gluten free, dairy free diet.

The gluten free breads are disgusting and what makes it worse is he has an intolerance to eggs. That basically means all doughs and breads are out of the question. Everything has eggs in it.

A lot of people don't even think mercury is bad for you in small amounts. They know they have amalgams in their mouth, but they say it's okay. /shrug There is probably nothing you can do for those people.

I guess some of us are less affected by mercury but I personally think its a matter of time with all people.

Can your husband tolerate spelt? Its an ancient grain and has less gluten and higher protein. I can tolerate it in small amounts and make pizza dough with it.

I seem to be back down to my normal weight for some reason. Cutting out sugar always has done that for me. Haven't been perfect, but I'd been giving in to my chocolate urges quite regularly till I got motivated on here thanks to these fine people : ) It helps to have the support and motivation.

GDawson: Learning can be a very painful process and many people would rather not think about these things.

Jeanie: I agree. I was very angry, disturbed and disillusioned when I first learned about all this and felt the need to cry it from the housetops. Anymore people know about it and dentists are supportive about it. Its more accepted as being an issue, but no one would WANT to believe it still!