I am trying to convince my partner we need a sauna so I can detox this stuff and get my life back. I am talking about the traditional style sauna, not the infrared type. I don't believe the infrared type is effective enough.

Is it possible to remove a significant amount with a sauna alone? Also while eating the right food and adding lots or garlic and coriander.

I am having such a bad reaction in my brain with the chlorella. It dosen't help that I am agoraphobic and very senstive to panic attacks. Having the feeling of things 'shifting' in my head scares me to bits. I get so many bodily and brain sensations it's awful.

I am not able to sit and relax in a public sauna due to panic. When I have used really good, mega hot, public saunas I have felt fantastic afterwards.

I have had quite a few in mercury exposures over the years.

The bulk of it was before the age of 13 as I used to have regular, government dental visits. I remember I had a re-occurrant face swelling problem as a young child and I now believe this must of happened after each filling as it would effect one side of my face only. Not connection back then was ever made and I was diagnosed with having 'hives'. I wasn't able to go to school as the swelling was significant.

When I was about 12 I found an interesting collection of beads on the bathroom bench. I realised it was mercury and started playing with the beads not realising their toxic nature. Someone must have broken a thermometer on the bench. I didn't even know we owned a thermometer so how the mercury got there was a mystery.

When I was about 15 I was eating and felt something sharp in my mouth. I pull out my food and found one of my amalgams lodged in a lollie. Not sure if I swolled any. It was replaced with my first white filling.

When I was about 25 I bought a tub of ghee(Indian cooking oil). I was about halfway into using the tub when I noticed a ball of mercury floating around in it. I scooped out the mercury and ate the remaining ghee. I was aware at the time this wouldn't be good but was not in a position to waste food.

Age 31, amalgams removed with safe protocol.

About 8 months later I became agoraphobic.

Yes, saunas are very effective at removing metals/mercury via the pores of your skin. Andy Cutler mentions it in his book. It is equivalent apparently to chelation, depending how long and how often you do it. I would not overdo it though, you could make matters worse by releasing too much of the stuff at once.

Be careful of chlorella and cilantro, they can stir mercury up wildly in some people and not be sufficiently grabbed hold of and eliminated. Some people do well, others do not. I did well on Cutler's protocol. The safest and most effective I have ever tried. Most other stuff for me lead to a nightmare of exacerbated symptoms that were enough to almost have me sent to the loony bin (until the reaction died down again).

I remember once I took chlorella and was ill for months afterwards because it released or stirred up far too much mercury for my body to handle. Sometimes the backfire effects and recovery from such can be worse than the actual condition.

Be very careful.

Good things to do too are a healthy diet excluding sugars/wheat/gluten/yeast, appropriate supplements (particularly antioxidants), enough proteins and healthy fats/oils. Moderate exercise (e.g. rebounding and/or walking). I used a treadmill and found it most effective for helping me release more metals and gain more health. I sweated quite well then, so I was lucky. I used to put it on an incline as I built up more strength and more and more metals/toxins came out of me over time.

Wormwood, the infrared sauna was extremely effective for me. As far as I know, it is more effective at removing mercury. You are able to sweat much more at lower temperatures. I could not tolerate a regular sauna - I felt sick in the heat. I bought the infrared before I ever knew I was mercury toxic and used it frequently (with my fillings in). It brought my symptoms under control (as much as it could with my fillings still in). At times when my symptoms were severe (muscle twitching, pain all over, etc.), the sweat caused a rash on my skin and the twitching stopped. I only got the rash when my symptoms were severe so I am certain it was removing the toxin (better on the outside than the inside). After showering immediately and applying coconut oil the rash was fine. After amalgam removal, I had a severe reaction about a week later (MS-like symptoms) that lasted for several weeks. I decided to use the sauna again and the severity of the symptoms subsided within a few days and I was back to my previous level of health within 2 weeks. I took magnesium and tri-salts before the sauna and Vitamin C and multiple minerals after. I have come across similar posts from people who had great improvement with the infrared and even one autistic mother who used it to recover her child. I think any sauna is helpful, I just know that I was able to sweat a lot more in the infrared (and I think I read that it was able to pull deeper from the tissues - don't know if that is true - just know that it worked for me.)

I also suffered from pretty severe panic attacks in random situations. Getting stuck in traffic in the tunnel or on the highway would set off a major one. Elevators too. Even in the middle of the night, I would wake up with a panic attack and feel I had to get my necklace off or try to get the door to my bedroom open. For some reason I thought I was locked in (which I wasn't) so of course I would unlock the door which was actually locking the door since it wasn't locked to begin with - and then I would really freak out because I was locked in. My husband really thought I was going nuts (especially since we knew nothing about the mercury at that time). I have not had a single panic attack in the last year since having my fillings removed. And I had no idea that this was related to mercury so I was not expecting them to stop - I didn't even notice at first - but then when I would find myself in a situation that I knew caused a panic attack and braced myself to do my deep breathing to try to bring it under control - nothing happened - no panic attack. I didn't need to do my deep breathing. I thought what is going on - this is great. Only after did I read about the effects of mercury on the adrenal glands and the relation to panic attacks. I hope they subside for you too.

Oh I really need to know this sauna will help. I am thinking I can use it to get to a certain level so I can handle and different chelator later when I feel better.

From my research an infrared sauna just dosen't get up the appropriate sweat. I have read the main reason people can't breath in saunas is because they add the water which dampens the air making it suffocating. The trick is to keep it dry and you can get up to 80degrees centergrade. I have been at that temp. and was amazed I could stand it. I don't sweat easily.

As I can't work due to agoraphobia I have to get my partner to buy this and I feel so bad asking for it but I need to heal. He knows it's critical that I heal and is willing to help but I am such a burden. I am trying to find a second hand one to make it somewhat affordable.

I get the night panics too. I sometimes run out to turn a light on to try and figure out who or where I am or I whack my partner in fear and wake him up all freaked out. He is used to it now and just sleeps through it.

To have mercury clear me of panic would be a Godsend. I would also be so angry that those things were put in a little child and ruined my whole life!!!!!!!!

At the moment I still don't know if it's mercury or all in my head.

Yes, Wormwood I would panic too about where I am in the middle of the night, especially if we went on vacation, the first few nights I could count on panic attacks. One time we stayed in a house near a rushing creek and when I awoke in the middle of the night I had a major panic attack because I had no control over the sound of the creek. I was stuck with the sound, couldn't turn it off. But I would even sometimes panic about where I was even when I was at home. I don't miss the panic attacks.

I am not sure where you are getting information about the infrared sauna, but you sweat profusely in it and it doesn't take very long or a high temperature to get sweating either. After amalgam removal, I used it everyday for a month until my symptoms had decreased and then I used DMPS and I was flying. My only setbacks have been after my dental visits (to replace crowns), I do get minor flare ups just from going in the dental office. But again I use the sauna or a very small round of DMPS - even a few nights will do it.

I forgot to add my mercury exposure before I was even born. My mothers gob was filled with silver. Her dentist died of cancer, how surprising. She spent her life a nervous wreck too and pilled up for every symptoms she had. She dosen't believe mercury is the problem.

My mom did too (and suffered panic attacks too so I just thought I took after her). I think this is a cumulative toxin from generation to generation and one of the reasons, in addition to thimerosol, that we have had an explosion of autism, ADD, ADHD and autoimmune diseases.

The dentist who placed my amalgams had kidney failure (had a transplant) and has dementia (two biggies for the mercury toxic person).

Hi wormwood, the sauna should definitely help you. It's not in your head by the way, there is always a cause for these mental symptoms we experience. But I used to think it might be "me" too, until I got detoxed enough and realised it wasn't. Candida can also cause many of these bizzare fears/symptoms too, as well as mercury.

Like yourself, I often have to get a member of my family to go and buy me something from a shop, depending on how severe my fear is at the time. He's used to it and has helped me for years with this. Other times, when I'm more detoxed, I feel like I can do anything and go anywhere. It's a strange thing, but the fears just disappear or lessen substantially.

So long as you realise it's not you and this is very typically mercurial behaviour. Withdrawn, social phobias, agrophobias, etc. Phobias is a biggie with mercury (candida too). Compulsive behaviours and strange ritualistic behaviour is a symptom also. It saddens me how many out there maybe suffering from mercury and have no idea and are put on all kinds of medication and psychotherapy....well, it might "help", but if anybody can show me someone who can psychoanalyse the mercury into be nice and coming out, I'd like to meet them.

Mercury is ruthless and no respecter of anybody. Whatever it does, it does and sometimes for some people the symptoms are more psychiatric, for others they maybe more "bodily"...however the brain is just another organ, so it gets sick too. I consider it all physical because of this.

I am still saunless and will be for a while due to the car breaking down and taking the sauna money.
My partner in the meantime tried an infrared sauna and said after 40mins he barely had a sweat and it was only on the parts facing the sauna heaters.

I am after a traditional sauna and this is why it will take a while to find a second hand one.

The portable infrared saunas are extremely effective. I'll be dripping with sweat withing 5 minutes. I'm sure some aren't that strong but I have never tried larger infrared saunas...just the portable little ones that your head sticks out of.

Just wanted to add to this that I recently bought a blanket style portable FIR. I found it on eBay and it was half the price of other websites.

I've only had it for 10 days and for the first time in my life I'm sweating so I figure its working!

Are you sweating all over your body or just some places? I live in a hot place and will sweat in patches most of the way throught the summer. It's not until I get into a traditional sauna that some real, full body, continuous serious beads of sweat start coming from me within minutes.

It's sweat not caused from condensation as the sauna room is completly dry.

Its a whole-body-sweat. From the tips of my toes up to my neck.

Its similar to what you describe from your experience with traditional saunas, but I cant tolerate more than 10 minutes in a traditional dry sauna.

I should add that before getting the FIR sauna, I never used to sweat at all. Ever. Even in the hottest weather.

After buying the FIR, it took me about a week of daily use to start sweating.

After 2 weeks, its taking me about 30 minutes to start building a sweat.

So I would say for me that its definitely working, but you might experience different results in a different timeframe.

I find my face never sweats. It just goes bright red.

Is the sauna enough to detox? I have been using the sauna almost every day since removal and was feeling pretty good - noticable improvement and then hit rock bottom with every symptom back full force - is that dumping? I haven't chelated - it has been about 2 months since removal. I was thinking that maybe the sauna and a massage every other week would be enough for detox but now I am wondering if I should also chelate. I knew it wouldn't just be smooth sailing all the way but figuring out what to do is hard. Maybe my body became strong enough to handle more mercury being secreted so even though i feel horrible I am actually getting rid of more. It hard not knowing what to think. Any thoughts?

Mine does too lol, but when I used liquid Oxygen for a while (Not peroxide or Chlorites but Dr Wongs) I would pour down sweat!!!! I literally cleaned my car and was sweating everywhere! I never sweat either, so this was odd to me! Maybe I should go use it again.

It is probably both, in your head and Mercury, sometimes our thinking can make things alot worse. I know what you mean it ruined my whole life and they put it in, I have said that over and over and this is not my fault at all! I now need to accept it and move forward and better myself in all aspects to get over this, I truly believe alot of things are my thinking and all in my diet and head, I need to clean those up and then I will do better. I always look for outside things from supplements and so on as in which will heal me, but seriously I need to start eating better and thinking better as well, all are very important in getting better. Am I mercury free? Probably not at all, and I have Candida and thats a fact, parasites as well, those all make me worse, but my thinking and diet is not very good at all! That part of me needs to change, a complete altogether thing which will infact heal me once and for all IMO! I don't know where this came from, it's like the words of God from em tonight for some reason as if something touched me lol, peace.

Instead of buying a sauna, why not join a gym that has one and see how you get on.

Most days I go for a swim and a sauna and do feel and look well.

Whether it got mercury out of my body I don't know. However, I'm pleased to say that I had my 4 amalgams swapped today. I feel fine so far, anyway!

I agree on the gym thing, some have saunas in there and I used to go in one for atleast 25 mins, felt great afterwards.

Because I have agoraphobia so I panic when out and about. I have a great public sauna not too far away but I just can't relax in it to reap the benefit.

Phobias are common in mercury toxic people. I understand how this is completely wormwood. So I got myself a good quality treadmill (you can pay it off) and one that has incline levels if you wish for a harder work out and more sweat. If you can't handle that, flat level is still effective.

I also had hot baths and put in either a cup or more of epsom salts OR a mix of baking soda + sea salt (cup or more of each). Either one of those is excellent in helping the body sweat and helping to pull more toxins out in the process (metals included).

Rebounding is also good, but I found the treadmill more effective for sweating. Though rebounding is also know as "lymphasizing" (because it stimulates the lymph glands).

You can do these things without going out. The more detoxed you get, the less your fears will bother you. Everybody has their weaknesses and some do suffer social phobias, whilst others might not. It's not you. If you ever get a patch where you are less toxic and the phobias die down, you won't know yourself. You'll be surprised at yourself and you won't even be ABLE to be scared. However, if they continue regardless? It maybe candida combined, plus not enough chelation (e.g. brain mercury maybe involved).

Oddly enough and I wouldn't normally recommend this, but I have been using crushed garlic mixed into my fried onion and tomatoe and have been noticing the sensation of metal (tasting it and feeling it)....I don't know what is going on, considering I"m long past amalgam removal and had years of chelation....plus chelation no longer works on me. I cannot figure out why garlic is doing this, but there you go. I am now using garlic much more.

Garlic is great, but it can also cause die off from candida and does indeed have an affinity for metals. However, some do not tolerate the effects from this, depending on the individual. One dental clinic I know of recommends garlic food or supplements for mercury detox! Garlic is often recommended for mercury, and though sometimes I get the detox sickly effect, the food is safe for me, the supplements are not. Garlic in supplement form has created horrific redistribution effects in me, so much so it shunted them into my gut and other more sensitive areas and left me in agony both mentally and physically (gut). I even went into the emergency from the pain.

Yet, the food version of garlic has never done this (ever). But it does cause some detox effects at the moment, hence why I'm taking it. I figure detox effects is a good sign, particularly when I can taste metal in my mouth and sense it being moved. I am careful because it can still make me feel very ill with metal, but I feel like it's doing something and it's not causing horrific effects either.

Sadly, chelation isn't working on me at all. Producing no detox or improvements. Not sure why that is! And why garlic is doing it!

I tolerate Kyolic Garlic very well, I used it for years! I know it has health benefits from the yeast and kills bacteria in the body etc., but it helps Mercury Detox? I always heard of that but never really felt it. I am beginning to think the Kelp and Garlic along with the Chlorella helped me get a little better in the years after my tooth was out, but had no clue Kelp and Garlic would help with that. You would think I would have had bad effects like some in here or elsewhere using these things while toxic, but ironically I never got a side effect from any of them and even felt better. Did it redistribute some in me? Who knows, but it never did much damage like it has to some.

BTW when I just detox or kill Candida I get a metal taste, why? It am not chelating for metals but still get it? Metallic taste is common with me, even though I have no tooth in my mouth and haven't for years that is metal.

Hi Sean,

I am not sure about Kyolic Garlic. A specialist doctor here who specialises in natural health and mercury detox didn't seem impressed with kyolic and felt it was not as effective....she recommended another brand (GNLD garlic allium complex, which also contains onion leek etc. HIGHLY POTENT STUFF http://www.breadoflifevitamins.com/gnld-products-a-z/gnld-herbals/garlic-allium-complex.html/)....But as I became intolerant to garlic supplements, (they all started to hurt after virus and wisdom tooth removal, so it's possible they shunted the toxins from there into my gut and other areas, or some other reaction was taking place). I know cavitations can be risky with high sulfur...yet I don't get issues with eggs or onions. Nor do i get it with garlic in it's food form).

Another one I used to use - I think was nature's sunshine garlic (with odor) which was also beneficial. I think the deoderising and other processes (ageing) etc, perhaps removes something beneficial and effective. HOwever, personally I'd opt for the food. Crushed is really good and simply adding it to a stir fry or something. You might want to give it a go and see if you get any effects.

It's possible that for me the metal may not be mercury but some other type of metal. Which maybe why DMSA is totally ineffective on me now, yet used to be HIGHLY effective....ALA doesn't do a thing either. So whatever garlic is doing? I don't know what. When I started eating it, it took a little whilst and I began to notice the sensation of metal in the eyes and other areas I had previously felt problems with. As though it was beginning to shift those metals/toxins and that's when I tasted the metal also. I really felt it!

The reason you may getting metal taste of yeast die off, can be because yeast can absorb mercury/metals. When yeast die, they can release any contained metals. Hence why you maybe tasting it. So long as it's done in a slow natural manner, you might be ok. However, if it is done aggressively? You can wind up with acute metal poisoning. I have had this occur and had to use chelation to get the metals back out. Though it was effective in a sense that I got rid of more mercury! But I'd not recommend such a way of doing it, I really got very very ill. Highly poisoned. So die off from yeast can sometimes be risky, depending on how it's done. This might account for your metal taste. As long as you're coping ok? It should be fine and at a rate you can handle.

I found that diet alone and natural antifungal foods were the best way to do it without the dangers associated with it. Though even then, one may still experience it to a point....even herbal antifungal supplements were risky for me and that's what actually gave me the acute metal poisoning from killing too much yeast aggresively in one go. I was severely poisoned. Thank GOODNESS for DMSA that time! It saved my bacon. I used it Cutler style and it worked wonderfully.

I am not so bad that I can't go for a jog around my neighbourhood. I have a stepper inside if I need to workout indoors. Recently I have started regular hot, salty baths. The hot water is free now for the rest of the summer due to it being solar go I can have lots of hot baths. I love feeling the sweat dripping off me in the bath.

I have been agoraphobic for so long I wanted to speed up the sweating. I need to start living again. Actually this week I am starting to feel a tingle of goodness inside me. Could it be the weeks of organic food and regular supplements? I hope so. I have always slackened off on these things but feel this time I am really going to see it though and beg my partner to keep up my supplement supply if I have to.

Hi Bex, ((( Smiles )))

That is interesting..
I've been takeing Olive Leaf Extract lately for awhile..
And I assume it's that because it's something I added new.
And I have this new metal taste in my mouth I have had for
days now.
And even though I have silver/merc fillings in my back teeth.
I've never tasted this metalic taste before.
And you said when yeast dies off.
Could olive leaf extract be killing alot of yeast??
Is that it??
Because this is a new taste in my mouth and all I could think of is this except I did add royal jelly too.
But I don't think it would be the royal jelly..
Could it be the olive leaf?

Thanks
Lynn

Hi Lynn,

Well I always associate metal taste with metal because it seems to have been connected with that each time with me. And chelation of some kind usually proved it.

As yeast absorb heavy metals and apparently can hold their own weight in mercury, it's no surprise then that if one reduces yeast by diet/antifungals, that the dying yeast may release not only it's yeast toxins, but also any metals it may have contained. This apparently has been verified by urine testing (before and after antifungal use).

Diet isn't as bad, because it gradually starves out excess yeast and they sicken and die. Though this still releases toxins, you may not get the extreme/acute symptoms that you may have gotten from antifungals (depending on how bad a person is poisoned). Antifungals are more aggressive apparently and can split open yeast cell walls on contact. So yeah, if your yeast contain metal, you can imagine.

So it is possible that your metal taste might be a bit of metal release from the yeast being reduced by the olive leaf extract. it's too hard to tell though. There maybe other reasons for metal taste too, but for me it did appear to be directly related to metals. Which is why the chelation worked so well after antifungal use had killed off so much yeast.

I don't think it'll be the royal jelly somehow, but you could always stop taking it and see which one is doing what. controlling yeast is a good idea always. Excess yeast, though it may "bugger" some of the metals, easily warps out of control with sugars/gluten/ etc in the diet and becomes an illness in and of itself. It then takes over, releases it's own toxins continually into the blood stream (which can affect the brain) and can make an already poisoned person FAR sicker. Can be the last straw. A certain amount of yeast will always be at a higher level in a metal toxic system, but the key is not to consume stuff that this already overgrown yeast will thrive upon and have the potential to turn into a nightmare situation.

I've been there and I was very close to ending my life many times. Not just because of mercury, but also the yeast. Double the dose of toxicity in the same system. If one does decide to address yeast, they need to do so strictly. Cheating doesn't work, even small cheats can maintain a high yeast level. I had to give everything up completely in order to slowly start feeling the excess yeast reduce. THen I got sicker by the increase in toxins as it was dying, but when my body processed them and caught up, I felt much better.

Usually it takes a few weeks or more to start feeling more normal. But relapses happen when a person gets weak and decides to cheat on their diet. Unless of course the underying condition has been fixed, to where the immunity can now keep yeast under control without the need for such a diet and the person can loosen up. If however the underlying condition hasn't been addressed, one usually finds they relaspe completely after they cheat on the diet. At least that's how it is for me. It shouldn't be that way, but sadly it is for some of the conditions people suffer.

Hi Bex, ((( Smiles )))

Interesting.
Killing yeast off and maybe thats what's happening with takeing the Olive Leaf Extract because,
I've taken Astragulus and other supplements for awhile now and it's only recently..
After I started the Olive Leaf daily that this awfull metalic taste in my mouth started happening.

It must be killing yeast off and plus I have noticed I've been feeling more run down kind of sick to my stomach lately,
and I wasen't sure what it was.
This stuff must be effective for me then.
I started talking it because of a program on lyme disease.
It said take it for at least 18 months and not that I have Lyme but just in case the testing of long ago..
was not accurate which back then I thought it was but I just don't know..
That was a time frame before my T and H came about.
And the antibiotic ceflaclor I took back then must have messed me up more as I got real sick on it..
and thats when the thudding started 24/7 for weeks audibly out loud to go deep inside my ear as a rumbling sound.
One ear louder inside then the other now..
Like a myoclonus that was only the beginning..
as I eventually developed terrible sound reactive middle ear spasms to sound that I believe and know was following a nerve
injury..
An acoustic trauma with my hyperacusis.

I'm like cured now and it's been pretty good for awhile now but..
I'd just rather stay away from antibiotics unless I really really had to and there was no other way out.
So I would rather do others things like what you write about on this board.

Get rid of the yeast, heal the nerves, get rid of the mercury which means going to the dentist for that.
Thats a hard one, as drilling is rather loud but..
I have to do that someday I just had such a bad expirence with H and T but it doesn't mean..
It will happen again but if it does..

I'd just have to be prepared for it again stuff happens in life.
I made it through once all ready.
I think I'll just keep takeing the Olive Leaf.
It's probably working in that way..
And thats good right?

Thanks Bex
Lynn

Bex I always respect what you say, but when you talk about diet for Yeast and so on doesn't it just make the symptoms subside and cause a little die off but the yeast is still there? You are not feeding it so to speak but the second you come off that diet you pay again right? I read that the diet doesn't get rid of the Candida, but infact Oxygen throughout your body will kill the systemic yeast and infact be more of a cure than some antifungals and just a diet. Youtube it and search Candida and look a the video Dr Whiting has up, it tells you how to cure yeast overgrowth rather than just stopping symptoms. I know I am not cured yet so I am not one to talk on this until I do and it cure it, but he sounds very convining and has studied it for over 20 years, I have talked to him on the phone quite a few times and he answers questions of mine. I guess you get this from antibiotics correct? That kills off your good bacteria. I don't really want to do a diet long term as that takes the fun out of my life lol, I know I would feel better but it seems just SO TOUGH to follow! When you have Candida and parasites you have cravingas well, which makes it even harder to follow. I know your way works for you and you feel alot better, but if you go off that diet boom the symptoms will hit back even harder and you will be right there again. We need to try and find a cure in here.

Hi Sean,

Thanks! If you feed yeast/parasites at the sametime as taking supplements to try and kill them etc, you are defeating the purpose. In fact, I tried it and it made me vomit because of so many ongoing toxins. It's like a permanent state of die off, yet you're feeding it at the sametime. Feeding, die off, feeding and on it goes. To stop the cycle, you have to change your diet. It's not just about denying candida, it is also about building the immune system with good healthy foods and giving up sugar, wheat/gluten yeast etc isn't a bad thing even if you don't have candida. It's recommended by Hal Huggins, as sugar lowers immunity and can cause far reaching problems. Wheat is treated with mercury fungicide and contains gluten (which can cause problems in gluten intolerant people).

Therefore, to me? If it works? It's well worth it, even to have a better quality of life. It takes perserverance and the cravings will worsen at first and you might feel irritated, cranky and miserable temporarily as you go through withdrawal. You first think "I cannot do this" "I can't go on" because the cravings for these toxic foods increase as the yeast and other organisms start reduce. They also release their own toxins as they die off and that increases temporarily feelings of sickness. As the effects of these poisonous foods (that is how I see them) start to come out of you and the poison with them.

I remember how I had so many toxins come out of my brain on the candida diet, I was crying, had headaches, but at the end of it? I felt like the sun had come out. I was lucky then though because I could still consume fruit, high carbohydrate vegetables, wheat/gluten free grain and consume healthy treats like sugar free carob. I even ate potatoe chips almost daily.....yet I was doing very well (even with amalgams). It took a couple of weeks or more to notice changes and the changes were worth everything. Later the cravings reduced anyway, so I didn't feel too hard done by. Temporarily they increase, so it's a battle at first until you get the upperhand.

So for me, it's about controlling the worse of the problems and building immunity. It should be a cure if the issue is temporary, but it will never be temporary if you have a permanent or long term underlying health problem. YEast will always return no matter WHAT you do in that case. Even the most expensive high quality supplements will not cure a yeast problem because the issue is immune, (unless it's been caused temporarily by a round of antibiotics or something else that you can eventually bounce back from if you do the right things).

However, if mercury is still in your system, or you are suffering from long term virus or other immune challenge, then candida will always be there waiting to grow back. I have used supplements before and they don't do enough. The diet is essential. For me it's not even a question, I stick with the diet unless I manage to cure the underlying problem and then I'd be able to loosen up again I'm sure and possibly cheat with nothing too devastating happening.

Even the oxygen therapy may not be so effective, if the underlying problem remains which allowed yeast to grow in excess in the first place. These treatments will probably work if the person has got something that can be cured/detoxed out of their body, which allows them to gain strength and recover over time. Then their immunity keeps yeast at healthy levels without too much effort. I also cannot afford much, so I do what I can with what I have. My diet is healthy, so I have no issues with sticking with it.

You will know how much you can handle with the diet yourself. Everybody is different. My immunity once wasn't nearly this bad, so I could eat a loose candida diet. Only had to eliminate the obvious sugars, wheat/gluten and yeast. That's it. Everything else I coudl pretty much eat. But things have changed now and I have some other condition I deal with, worse than the mercury. So I have made the appropriate adjustments in the meantime to keep me sane. It's not easy no, but it sure beats being completely bedridden.

You can sort out what helps you get through each day as you detox the mercury. If you can handle a looser diet and still function? Then hey, that's fine. However, if you are REALLY hurting? I mean severe depression, suicidal, severely anxious, unable to barely function? You may find the diet a life saver for you. And whatever else you decide to use as well....

If you find the oxygen etc, helps you without the diet? whatever works for you is the key. I wouldn't personally spend alot of money on ongoing supplementation like that, when the real issue isn't really candida anyway, it's just an opportunist and a side effect of a much bigger problem at work. Candida is a sign a person's immunity is low and can no longer keep yeast where it should be. The cause of this is the what we need to look at, but treating yeast in the meantime can at least reduce the misery it causes and help a person cope easier.

If you do think about doing the diet, I'd hazard a guess and say you'd probably get away with what I used to get away with and not have to be as strict. Sugar is bad, wheat/gluten is bad anyway for many mercury toxic people (and other illnesses), I'd not eat either, especially when trying to heal/detox.

Bex you just made a light go off in my head! Immunity is low for a reason, maybe not from just mercury but maybe from Vitamin or Mineral deficiencies and probably LOW IMMUNITY! TO build up immunity? I want to find something very good out there to do that, as a good immune system kills those stupid yeast and bugs no matter what it seems! I have read on the benefits of a good immune system and listened to David Wolfe (A great holistic medicine man) on things to boost immunity and what it can do for you. I read boosting immune system gives you the ability to kill so and so (NK) amounts of Candida in 1/1000's of a second? I will post that link now. http://www.yeastinfectionadvisor.com/immunesystemsupplements.html (GREAT SITE!). I will look further into getting that immune system balanced! Thaks for reminding me Oxygen or not (I would have to stay on that as well no doubt for a while) this will not cure it and the underlying cause is the key thing to take out. Is it metals? Pesticides? Fluoride? Antibiotics I took way back? Mineral deficiency such as Selenium or Iodine or even Mag/Zinc? Thats the big picture here. I don't really need the diet though as it hardly gets that bad, when it gets out of hand I use some GSE and it's down alot off just one dosage and I can cope again. I want to get rid of this though this year, and I will find a way to do it. Thanks for the post, you made alot of sense there and woke me up some, the immunity seems to BE KEY! Reishi Mushroom might be the best thing to try for that to get it up again (Garlic as well), so I will look into a good price for that stuff now. Here is SOME from the article to read.


Wolfe: That is possibly what confused this doctor. He probably thought, because garlic is an immune system upper, you know, it kills everything off. Echinacea kills everything off, and to doctors that's confusing. They go, "Oh, if it kills everything off, what's going to happen to all the good bacteria, and everything like that?" Well, people have been eating garlic for thousands of years and it's still one of the great folk medicines on the planet for a reason. It has a history behind it. Anyway, the great adaptagenic herbs act like reishi. Another one I want to mention before we let this go is astragalus.

Mike: Oh, you bet.

Wolfe: That's one of the great Chinese herbs. It's a root, and it is considered one of the top six or seven herbs in the whole Chinese medicinal system, and that's another one that's an immune system modulator. If you need your immune system to go up, it will go up. If you need your immune system to calm down, it will go down. By the way, people will say, "Why do you need your immune system to calm down?" The reason could be allergies and the autoimmune conditions, and those are two situations where you want to tone the immune system down a little bit.




I need to add good foods though from Kelp if I tolerate it well to Goji berries and Spirulina, adding those things WILL NOT hurt to my diet.

Oh yeah Bex one more thing, Dr Wong who I listen to even says you have to keep things up that kill it OFF because the Yeast Infection is always going to want to come back, like you said. It is a never ending battle it seems, very HARD to get rid of.

Hi Sean,

Yeah, you definitely do have to keep it up because it will always return unless the underlying problem has been fixed.

Yeast is not really the enemy in and of itself, but it becomes the enemy from a failure of the immune system to keep it in check and that's when it can do damage.

It's just a sad side effect of a over challenged/suppressed? immunity. I never had such yeast problems until mercury and then later from virus/bacterial infection. It was always something there in the first place that was the problem. One forum I belong to with a lady who is really up on the yeast problem and has been dealing with sufferers for many years, says the only way to cure yeast is building immunity. And part of that is consuming healthy natural foods without sugars and too many high carbohydrates. She recommends proteins and animal fats also as health building. She's very much a Dr Weston Price fan. I'd recommend reading his stuff too. Excellent health/diet advice. http://www.westonaprice.org/splash_2.htm Check out the topics on the left side of the site.

Diet is the foundation of everything else. If that isn't corrected and healthy natural foods are not consumed, then it's doubtful a person will make much progress. Hal Huggins and even said that diet can destroy more recoveries than anything else, OR overdoing things too quickly after feeling better. He knows how important it is that a person change their food habits.

I guess us humans are creatures of habit and pleasure, but to me, what pleasure is there is feeling like total garbage? I'd rather suffer the denial of certain foods, than put up with worse health than I already do.

A good healthy diet is what will help build your immunity as everyone of your cells relies upon proper foods/fats etc to rebuild. I cannot imagine expecting too many results from any type of supplement, if I'm still consuming foods that hinder/destroy, rather than build up. It's not saying be absolutey "perfect" as your issues may not be as severe in this area as mine are. However, if you are looking to get serious about your health and immune system? Then it's unfortunate, but consumption of sugar/junkfoods etc, is a sure-fire way to tear down anything you are trying to build with supplements. Also a toxic system does not absorb supplements properly, so again it's a two edged sword. I could not respond to supplements, until I went on the diet and then my body started absorbing nutrients from my foods (and supplements) again.

I realise you do not wish to do the diet and perhaps you're issues are not as bad in that area, but I can tell you that the diet alone will STILL detox many toxins from your system, even some metals in the process....so even for that reason, you might oneday decide it's worth a shot.

Whatever you decide to do, I wish you the best. You maybe better at absorbing nutrients than me and find that supplements still help you. However, I would think seriously about eliminting or at least heavily reducing sugars/junkfood and wheat/gluten. Since they seem to be the biggest culprits in causing toxicity in people. As you know, sugar reduces immunity and does many other awful things to a person. Wheat is treated with mercury fungicide apparently, so why ingest more mercury? And gluten? many are suffering from gluten related illness and sadly will never know until they give up the wheat/gluten products and find health return or at least improve.

Doesn't mean you have to give up fruit, potatoes, chips, non gluten cereals etc. Unless you have a SERIOUS yeast issue. You may still be able to consume natural treats.

again, it just depends what you really want to do. It could be mineral deficiencies, metal toxicities, fluoride, or anything or a combination involved. Replacing minerals and giving your body the best foundation to excrete toxins would be a really good start (or addition). Diet is truly essential, not a "side issue".

Yes it is!!!!! I agree with all you said. I will try to add more and more to my diet each day to become a better person, but I truly believe a relationship with GOD is KEY as well and I need to develop one soon. Let me tell you a little story of high school. I felt the best I have in years because of a realtionship with God and eating better foods, my noises that bother me all the time (My key there) were taken away and I was focusing alot better, my writing improved alot and I got better grades from all of that combined, spiritually and better foods (I still drank on weekeneds but that did not bother me as much). I felt like a new man, very calm and the vices I have with OCD and I was under control of my life and was on a different level for a few years! I had fillings but they did not even bother me, maybe the poisoning did not settle in yet? Anyways for the first time I was pretty much normal as so to speak and happy as hell, the seretonin in my brain was flowing and I was on a that level of control which I need in life. Now I am out of control on foods and so on, maybe I am finding myself again slowly? I believe that is KEY, control, balance and options! I ate bananas, ate good cereals, took ACVingar and some garlic and so on, no supplements at all and I was running on all cylinders! I need to find that again, I pray I do.

Hi Sean, I hope I don't come across as pushy.... seriously nobody can change your diet or force you to do anything. Nobody could with me. I made the decision through sheer desperation and only persisted because I was terrified of staying that way. Suicidal urges and severe depression will eventually drive a person to do something pretty drastic. I was so poisoned.

I had amalgams at that time. However, because my body was more in "storage" mode, I guess there was less activity going on and the diet, after a few weeks, gave me dramatic improvements in health. I felt much closer to God during that time...how interesting that increased clarity and less toxicity could also impact the sense of the spirit! I can't explain it, but wow. I feel that toxicity numbs the senses and blurs a person's perception greatly. Creating a kind of void, a feeling of "deadness". YET, in times of great suffering, some interesting things can also happen...I've had a few things occur, though personal.

When you get amalgams out, the body apparently begins asserting itself and you can worsen with symptoms. Symptoms are a sign things are happening and the stuff is moving, but it's most unpleasant and at times horrific. With amalgams, it's bad, but more suppressed sickness and diet can control many of the symptoms. With the now asserted body that no longer has amalgams? You can really suffer badly, because all that poison that was storing up for years? The body is now trying to get rid of. In fact, I was distressed because I felt i had made the wrong move to remove amalgams, but one of the best doctors in my country (who has worked with mercury toxicity for most of his career) said it's not abnormal and means things are now starting to work at ridding years of poison.

I remember though when I first went on a candida diet, the symptoms were so bad Sean, that I was walking around crying. That's how poisoned I was and how much my body was now trying to eliminate. I had headaches and looked and felt like garbage. I was desperate for the sugars that had been making me so ill, including the wheat/gluten products, but I stuck at it as the poisons were now loosening and coming out of me. 2-3 weeks later? I emerged like a new person. And yep, I was eating bananas and all of that also and did well. I was Still amalgam poisoned, because I hadn't yet had the amalgams removed (like you) but the change was for me, life saving. That's where I found a strange clarity, warmth in my body (feet and hands), happiness, improvement in appearance and weight, hair/eyes/skin glowed and looked younger and YEP, my spirit too (with God). Not that FEELING good indicates being more pleasing to God (WRONG). I am well aware of the wretched suffering of many who like Christ, have a heavy cross and their value may not be realised by them in this life.

But yeah, along with ridding my diet of the toxic garbage, replacing it with healthy foods (raw if possible), I felt like I had walked out into the sunshine. I highly recommend it. NOt that I experience this now because I am weighed down by something very different and worse. But the diet STILL does "something" at the very least. I used to get away with the high carbohydrate foods and this is what I used to eat:

Fruits (bananas, apples, grapes, anything)
vegetables - potatoes, and every other vegetable (mostly raw if I could in salads etc) which REALLY increased the detox.
non wheat/gluten grain/cereal/bread (without yeast)
meat, yoghurt (unsweetened acidophilus)
potatoe chips (yep, I could get away with those then).
nuts of any kind and seeds of any kind
Carob (sugar free though)
milk in my tea and cerals, though I didn't over indulge in it by the glassful.
some honey in my tea or on my gluten free toast
non gluten/non wheat muesli bars from healthfood shops
Rice cakes (rice wafers, gluten free)
etc

Now does that sound restricted? That's pretty good! I wish I could get away with even that now. Though I got sick from cheating with sugar,wheat/gluten yeast, I just got back on this pretty loose candida diet (if you can really call it that) and felt ok again. Though at first, a person may need to restrict the fruits/honey and high carbs for awhile, depending again on how bad they are and how much restriction they need.

Your past improvements on a good diet indicates (unless you've contracted anything else since), that you have the potentital for health. But it's also not abnormal to worsen following amalgam removal too, which usually increases symptoms, so chelation maybe really necessary, with diet. As even the diet may not be able to hold many of the symptoms at bay if your body is actively trying to dump mercury. But it will aid and help your gut and liver do it more efficiently...that's what I've experienced anyway.

You can do it

I haven't been on for a while but, good news. I finally got a traditional sauna!!
It's not hooked up yet but should be very soon.

I also got a dyson!!

Yippee, my life is getting cleaner.

And the other news is I got so worried about my symptoms I caved and have started taking krill oil despite be a very strict vegetarian. I saw a doco on whales and they helped convinced me it will be ok to kill some krill.

So, lets see if I have an improvement this year.

I smashed my first mercury energy efficient light the other day. Was so peeved. I want to source the mercury free ones but can't afford them at the moment. I was careless when I smashed it. grrr.

Well, I cannot have the sauna installed until we upgrade the electric meter box on the house as it is too hold for such a thing. Typical.
It could be another 6 months before I see this sauna in action :-(

Ok, wow, the sauna has been installed. Will have my first go tonight. Now I can begin my cleanse. I have been feeling better lately. I have also made the big decision to start eating fish. After being a vego for 13 years.

Hi wormwood,

Congrats on the sauna

My question is, why would you make a decision to consume fish? I know there are health aspects to consuming it, but the downside is mercury and it's a BIG downside. Because any benefit is soon overshadowed by the contained contaminants like mercury.

There is no fish that I know of that is free of mercury and then you have to choose ones that are the "lowest" mercury fish (which STILL contain mercury). Even that would not be wise for a mercury toxic person in my opinion. The whole point is to eliminate the toxin, not take more of it in.

Some do not consider it's significant, but I believe it can be! Don't forget we're also told that amalgams were safe and we are not affected by the mercury - that apparently it's "bound up". And we know how untrue this is. I have noticed issues with fish and even some fish oils. And I have to be vigilant.

I would honestly get yourself a good quality brand of fish oil that has been tested and distilled for contaminants/mercury. I would not start consuming fish!

Just my opinion.

Carlsons Cod Liver oil is very good, I used it for years, good post.

Thanks!

I've heard of Carlson's cod liver oil. Funnily enough, I used Nordic Naturals fish oil (really good), but I had some issues with their cod liver oil and I'm not sure why.....it may have had nil to do with mercury but something else or the distillation process that may have made it more difficult to ingest the oil straight. Since I take the fish oil in capsules, but usually find cod liver oil is straight oil.

I tend to stick to their fish oil instead. But I know cod liver oil is very good because it contains vitamin A and D. One should make sure they are naturally occuring, rather than removed and then supplemented back into the oil unnaturally.

There are quality brands out there, but one has to locate them.

I'd recommend checking the links on this link for those interested.
http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/menu6_1_1.php

Hey wormwood! How is it going with the sauna? Is it a regular steam sauna or an infrared one?

Do you use it everyday? For how long, and with alternating cold showers?
Do you notice huge improvements while using it often or everyday, compared to public saunas now and then?

Cheers..

I'we heared btw that eating some garlic before taking saunas will dampen redistribution of metals, but i really don't know if that would just add to the mobilizing of metals or both, garlic both mobilizes and binds, and also provides vitamine C and selenium, etc....

hmm... never tried it myself... But logically if sauna and garlic gets metals into the bloodstream, then maybe sweating out the garlic stinking chemical from the blood will take with it the metals bound to the stinking stuff in the blood?

Garlic's stinking chemical can't be digested so it's thrown into the bloodstream to be sweated out... maybe it's that stuff that chelates using garlic?

Getting metals with garlic stink chemical into the bloodstream and then sweat it out?

Hmm... Don't know, but the part about the stink chemical in the blood is facts, so is the advice i'we read about using garlic pre to sauna use..

How effective / beneficial or "risky" it would be, i don't know.

OMG this post just saved my day! Now I am a lot less scared, thank you!

I've only just started reading about candida while trying to find out why I am suddenly so miserable.

A few days ago, I felt the first signs of tonsilitis, and I immediately fought them down by eating lots of garlic, inhaling tea tree oil steam, and drinking chamomile tea and peppermint tea. My tonsils recovered, and I was glad I would not have to spend the next 10 days in terrible pain...

But instead I had terrible Hg symptoms again, including extreme fatigue. Now, after reading about candida, everything makes perfect sense. What I had done was to totally kill off the candida with the garlic etc. onslaught!