There you go ranting and slandering again : ) Seriously, how do you expect me to respond to that? Am I supposed to SERIOUSLY really try and explain that when you put it that way? Cause you have warped the hell out of it. If you would like I will come back and try to actually explain when i get back cause I have wasted my evening on line. I think I needed to address what I did, though. I'll save this for another time, ok? I really don't want to fight anymore, but since you asked so nicely I will explain it. I just kind of doubt your sincerity with how you pose the question. But i would like it to make sense. It, as I said previously, is hard for even members to grasp. Linda Lou picked up on it, though... Actually Linear did, too. Even if he doesn't believe it. (or her). Tell me, though....what would be so bad about angels being on the earth oh you who believes in the bible? Is that limited to biblical times? Has it not happened before or not? Why couldn't it again? Seriously - if you believe in the Bible, why not? And why would not anyone want to entertain the amazing idea of God himself visiting the earth to introduce His son and show his true nature as our Father??? Literally?? What is not "biblical" about that??? God walked with Adam...he walked with Enoch. He HAS shown himself in times past. Except since Christ was born has only appeared or been heard to introduce His son. (case in point after Jesus was baptized). It escapes me how people who believe in the Bible would not be open to such things. My brother in law and I use to read these stories in the Bible and wish, so bad, to have such an experience. He since gave up on organized religion (but still reads his Bible) and just when i was about to, found the church. I searched this out and have proved it over the years. But I will have to get back to you. I really have to pack... Going out of town for the night tomorrow. Thanks for trying to be civil : ) I mean that....