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Hi Bex, missed ya, hope u are well.

Russ is sick because he sick. You don't get all the problems he(we) get from simply living life and interacting in our normal toxic environment. Russ had/has mercury toxicity and that has come back to haunt him. He must still have mercury in him, which was left over from when he originally got poisoned, and originally detoxed himself and the additional chemtrail toxin exposure has re-tipped him over the edge.....again. If he where mercury free, if he had no mercury in his body, the minor contamination from the chemtrails would not effect him so much. Most other people living in his(our) environment don't have these extreme symptoms. (note: I have not been following his or the chemtrail thread progress for 3-4 months)


Hi Sunshine, thanks. Missed you too! smile

Your explanation is very posssible I agree, but do remember the guy on the frequent dose forum (moderator?), who had been detoxing with Andy's protocol for a long time, yet each and everytime he walks into a dental office, he becomes repoisoned and has to chelate again for many months to get back the improvements again. This is ongoing for him.

Some people may well have a bit more than mercury wrong. Another example is myself. When I was mercury toxic, without the infection, I could always enter a dental office and noticed no symptoms from it at all. Though i was toxic, my immune system was obviously still strong enough to withstand the extra exposure at that time. Even though I had barely even detoxed the stored mercury.

What Russ has experienced may well be a sign that he could have mercury there (brain mercury is a typical one leftover). I can't say for sure, because all of us are exposed to a certain amount in our daily lives. Russ may have less mercury in him than other people who maybe less sensitive to the stuff than he is. It depends on a person's tolerance, overall immune status also, not just how much mercury they have in them. There are plenty of other things out there that can do great damage to the immune system. Mercury is a common one, but not the only one.

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I myself have almost no symptoms any more, just like Russ used to be like, i am living a normal life now....i have detoxed myself enough so i have almost no symptoms.....but.....and its a big but.....when i take a chelator (DMSA in my case) i get a noticeable reaction...with noticeable mercury symptoms


Yes, and you will continue to get symptoms from chelation until enough mercury is gone from your tissues/organs to where chelation does not produce any reactions any longer, no matter how high you go. Like yourself I began to feel good inbetween chelation, but I noticed strong symptoms when chelating which of course is THE indicator you still got a way to go....

These days? As you know, I get no reactions anymore from even extreme doses of chelating agents. Now, if I had significant mercury, or even enough mercury, there would be "something". You'd need to ask Russ whether chelation produces reactions in him. However, if it failed to do so before the chemtrails, but does now, then it's still possible the chemtrails were enough to hurt him. As I said, mercury is not the only immune suppressing agent, and even then, it can indeed cause problems that may affect a person long after it's been completely removed. Being poisoned by this stuff for long enough can leave it's mark. It's great if a person can get it out and feel good, but nobody knows whether damage has been done and one sign may well be vulnerability from then onwards to any other toxin. Yes it maybe remaining mercury, but it may not in all cases (such as mine).

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Anyway…that’s my take on why Russ, and you Bex, and many other people continue to experience such terrible problems even after they think they have been cured.

I hope i can avoid getting sick again by continuing all the cleansing and by chelation too....but time will tell. i am very much aware a post amalgam removal mercury dump could hit me any day. I live for today.


With respect Sunshine, my infection may well have been brought on originally by a disturbed/poisoned immune system. I can quite easily believe that, as I was still in the process of detoxing mercury at the time (but feeling well inbetween chelation). But also remember, I had mercury poisoning and contracted glandular fever and recovered through efforts/diet etc. However, the infection I have now has not been diagnosed, it has not gone, it is far worse than the glandular fever, and chelation makes no difference to me as I have stated plenty of times. I have already gone through cleanses in the past to no avail any longer (since the virus). Now whether or not it has lowered my healing ability and healing assertiveness? I don't know. But there are little to no reactions regardless.

I think when you fail to gain any improvement or healing reaction from these things, it is likely it may not be caused by what other people may think. I see you get reactions from the stuff you do, which is exactly what I once had also, before this virus. Unless people go through the same senarios, they will probably not understand and that's my experience.

Again, mercury is not the only devastating immune suppressor out there and there are other things that can happen to people that can hurt them and possibly long term/permanently. Viruses we may not all know about or understand. I can always go and buy a bunch more chelation and try again, but frankly the last lot of ALA did nothing more than hurt me and cause a worse case of yeast, because of my suppressed immunity. Did it cause any detox? No.

Even the detox support powder I'm on, doesn't really produce any detox symptoms as it would have once with the stuff it contains. Parasite cleanses produce no reactions or results. Detox kits for liver, kidneys, lymph etc, much the same thing. I attribute that also to my very good diet and many years of sticking mainly to healthy foods (even when not on a strict candida diet, I was still eating healthy). I have not smoked, used alcohol, done drugs and have gone to many people who gave me stuff to help cleanse me. This failed to produce results.

However, with diet and supplements long term, I do start to notice a bit more control of symptoms, which is as far as I get.