Hi SoSick,
CTD's opinion on the matter is very much the Christian norm.
I perceive it as being the Young Earth Creationist Christian norm.... -snip-
But what is causing the argument is not CTD's YEC stance. What is causing distress, here and other places on the board, are Jeanie's hostile reactions to views, even facts, that that are either contradictory to her own or, it would even appear, facts she does not want to made public.
When I made the statement above it was about CTD's comment about serving different masters, not about his YEC perspective. And I actually only started following this thread at about that point because I knew it was sure to draw blood from Jeanie.
I always keep in mind this little disclaimer at the bottom of the page...
By using this system, you understand that the information displayed here is intended for educational and entertainment purposes only. How is it that you perceive that you should be allowed to ramble on forever with what most Christians perceive as heretical Christian doctrine but no one else should be allowed to be speak?
This is a difficult point to contend with because it is about beliefs. Sometimes those beliefs get in the way of good analysis of the facts. You have said so yourself that evolutionists fail to see the Bible as authoritative regarding origins because their beliefs get in the way. The same could be said of Mormons or of believers such as yourself. That is called confirmation bias....we tend to see the things that confirm our belief and ignore those things that don't fit.
That's true, undoubtedly... however accusing people of rude behavior for posting views that oppose my own has never been something I have ever done. I have however been accused mant times of being rude for posting views, many times facts no less, that oppose the views of someone else. CTD has been accused of the same, Bex also... I don;t thuink any of us have ever done the same to any of the evo's here... I am not saying you have ever done it either. But there are some who use that ploy to disrail discussions time and time again. rather than simply discuss things, they scream offense. and sad to say.... it really is just a smokescreen at that point for those people who are unable to rationallt defend themselves. Beliefs are a touchy matter agreed, and I can assure you that even Christians differ as individuals one to the other about the very particulars of their beliefs. But somehow, we manage to find a place of agreement within it all. A common thread of belief if you will... unlike the various warring sects of islam or other religions we have chosen to find common ground and work together.
Every now and then a person comes along, here or anywhere, claiming to be a Christian and yet vocally opposing many of the values and beliefs that Christians hold as true, attempting to even cause division among the ranks. The plan usually backfires. It takes some time for outsiders who have not had much contact with christians as a whole to realize this I am well aware of that.
Just because you (and most Christians here) believe that a belief is heretical, doesn't mean that she should be given that label in a public forum.
And neither did I give her that label. However it would be far from me to disagree with CTD about the matter of certain doctrines which claim to be Christian but which truly are heretical to biblical teaching as far as most Christains are concerned, and which opinion I do fully agree with CTD about.
We could even have this discussion without ever mentioning Jeanie's name... because the discussion of those things does not concern her as an individual but rather concerns well published doctrines of another religion which bases itself upon Christian teachings. Many of Ghandi's ideas were also based upon Christian teachings yet we do not call him a Christian do we?
so basically, I think there is a need for recognizing hostile reactions as being a separate thing apart from true hostile intent, especially when none was intended.
I am not real sure I have gotten the impression that anyone here wants to really discuss jeanie's beliefs with her. she has posted plenty of them and gotten very lttle response. when she does get a response.. she gets angry. I imagine CTD is even quite alarmed that someone could come waltzing innocently along, and group him in with Jeanie's beliefs, which he does not share, simply because both call themselves Christians.
It's a legitimate concern.
There is a need to separate the item of discussion and views or opinions about those things, from the individual who might hold such views which might find certain things under scrutiny. This is a webboard. On the internet. This is not your home or my home or Bex's home or Jeanie's home. Neither of us are obliged to speak only about things which make the other person feel good. Most of the information persented is not meant as a personal attack unless perceived as such by someone. As far as I can tell, much of the anti-christian sentiment that wanders in is pretty much just sport. This board offers a place for non-christians or God haters to attack christians without much reprisal. Just sport for them really. I would very much enjoy seeing these same people employ their tactics at a muslim webboard. But I doubt they are brave enough.
anyway I only popped to lend CTD support. as you know, I wearied long ago of the circular arguments concerning evolution. If I need a lesson in rehash I can turn on the nightly news and just lay on the couch like a sponge.
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