Sorry about the strong ending....just trying to make a point. If that lady was somehow disciplined I apologize.... It just seems things are heading to really be about what offends YOU guys... Apparently there are some private convo's going on. I've never been one to take being controlled lying down. Not when I feel or believe strongly in something and, no matter how strong you may feel against evolution itself, you just can't judge everyone that way. These guys I knew in my reserve unit who also did were highly moral people.... (And what if someone isn't? You guys perfect that way??? Have you always been and what if you were??? Ever heard the parable of the prodigal son??) I really would like some clarification as well on what you constitute as earning respect. How about being a fellow human being??

Seriously, Linear has made some good points as has RAZD....

Sheesh - how would you feel if someone told you by virtue of your beliefs you should be dead??? OH, - maybe these New World Order folks have??? How does that make you feel? I'm sure I've stepped on some toes being LDS, too.

Russ, I know you aren't feeling well and may not even have been on lately. I haven't seen you much....

BTW, on the above post about my dad and aunt, they were both unique and lovely people but beaten down by life. Their family was manipulated by my oldest rather mean spirited aunt who didn't like my mom and they were jealous of my aunt who was very pretty... They considered both high maintenance. I've been thinking about my dad a lot lately even though I didn't know him long. I learned some serious life lessons observing these things. Now THEY have to live with how they were to them before they died. The deceased aunt had a twin who use to go to her grave site regularly and was heart broken. And daddy was their baby brother.... They had signed him away to the army when he was only 17 because their parents had both died by the time he was 11. He dealt with the horrors of war at a very tender age. (And was a hero I might add...)

I know this is Russ's forum... and I don't want to leave it (although may've crossed a line now). Perhaps it is the mother in me coming out.... Life is too short and we are all too precious.... ALL of us.