Egan Said...

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I think most creationists vehemently oppose evolution because they fear it interferes with their beliefs.


This belief is a product of the modern anti-Christian media.

When defaming someone, they always associate them as being fearful because it appeals to the ego of the target audience.

The fact is, some Christians are fearful because they hold to "religion" for some sense of security, BUT, the vast majority of Christians are bright enough to see the incredible illogic in evolution.

I also don't defend Christianity because of some fear or desire to protect my defense mechanism. The fact is, if evolution was logical and was a viable explaination for life, I would defend it as logical. I would in fact be, an evolutionist.

However, evolution is so incredibly illogical and impossible that those who believe it are either so emotionally based that they are attempting to protect themselves from a fear of God or responsibility, OR they just have not thought through the process of evolution completely yet, OR they just cannot believe that such a massive deception could exist. Either way, they are the ones who are being short-sighted; blinded by their own fear or emotionalism or illogic.

I'm being honest here. If evolution where a logical explaination, I would not hesitate to admit so.

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Yes, except that computers are computers and the universe is the universe.


The point here is that both work in an environment with similar physical laws. Apples are apples in this context.

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I've said this before, but I don't see why evolution and creationism need even oppose one another.


Depending on what you mean by evolution, they don't necessarily need to oppose each other.

The problem is not whether these belief systems are compatible. The problem is that evolution is just not possible. (Even if we're speaking about strict Darwinian evolution.)

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When you say evolution is wrong, you have to pinpoint what you mean by evolution, since the definition is as broad, if not broader, than the defnition of Christianity (you have countless sects, there are even sects of Christians who believe that God is dead: a far cry from what your average Baptist priest is preaching).


Christianity is defined as the belief that Christ is the incarnate Son of God.

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I think what should be discussed in this forum is how much do you believe life can evolve on its own and how much requires intelligent intervention? For example, if you don't believe in evolution in any way shape or form how do you explain that humans have evolved into different races?


Your making an assumption which is exactly what I mean by "short-sighted". The process that created the races did not involve an evolutionary process.

You have to realize that there is a lot of difference between one race and another. It's not a simple skin-color change. There are many other attributes as well, and in this complex difference between races, you have to ask where the "transitional forms" are as well.

Think about it.

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That giraffes grew longer necks over millenia?


Another assumption, probably based on falsified evidence. Where did you get this idea?

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That many animals have changed over generations to clearly adapt to new environments?


Another assumption.

You fall into the category of evolution-believers that assume that those in the scientific community are all completely honest, as is the media. This is very naive (no offense).

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there is no denying that giraffes have evolved, that humans have evolved, etc. The only question is how did we evolve and by who or what?


Your putting a whole lot of faith in people you don't know.

I've seen the so-called evidence that is supposed to solidify these ideas and if you would look hard and long enough, you too may see that they have been falsified. Just like the amalgam issue, there are two camps, and the one camp (evolutionists) always quote from the same two-dozen sources. Those who study this subject out will discover the, like income tax, like the "corporate United States", like the gold confiscation of the 30's, like so many of the wars, and like so many things the common person takes as truth, they are so deceived about so many things that they simply cannot believe it.

"Thje bigger the lie, the more people will believe it."

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Hard core, text book definitions on most beliefs of evlotion are an entirely different subject. I'm not talking about proving or disproving whether man sprung up from a bog, turning from a single celled organism into homo sapiens over the vast millenia of time. That's not part of my point. I'm talking about small bits of evolving. Are you actually denying that these things take place? Are you denying the biological evidence that some animals have evolved to adapt to their environment?


Adaptation and evolution are two different subjects completely. The evolution-mongers attempt to confuse the issue in order to make evolution look more feasible to the uninformed.

Fact is, adaptation is a process that is evidence for creationism. It is a complex process that is built into the machines we're talking about and represents a higher level of complexity.

There is more to adaptation than meets the eye.

I would also point out that there is a whole lot more than small changes that need to take place in order for a Giraffe to have a longer neck, a whole not more.

Think about it.


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