Jeanie, with respect I think I've reached the limit of what I feel is appropriate or desirable for me to make public here; and the more about myself that I typed, the more one or two resident creationists would possibly want to ridicule as a distraction from conversations about science. Feel free to PM me but if that's the case then I would ask you to keep the messages fairly short, as I am prepping to teach in less than 2 weeks and am spending a lot of time on that now. Thanks smile