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No. I said nothing about biblical creation.
So then who would need to get credit?

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If I did make crystals, would I get credit?
Do you need to? It's just chemical reactions.

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If they were, it wouldn't be very biblical. Ongoing acts of creation just don't match what is written. These Concepts are an artifact of earlier atheism & earlier compromise.
So no one needs to give anyone credit when new rocks are formed. Thanks for clearing that up.

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It's common knowledge that when dates come out "wrong" (as if they know) this is often attributed to the rock having "older" contents.
No, it's common creationist assertion and some documented misuse of dating methods. Any method can be misused, so when the results of such misuse are used to disprove the method all it shows is (a) that the person doing it intentionally misused the method, and (b) pretends that it isn't misused to (c) delude gullible people that don't know better.

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Now all rocks, when they form, are formed from matter that was already around. So saying a rock was "formed from older matter" would be self-evident and redundant. The excuse implies a creation event of some sort. It implies that some things are not formed from older matter.
True, and if you read the actual literature about the physical and chemical processes you will see that what they are dating is the time of formation of the new rock from old matter by the physical and chemical changes that occur.

Congratulations, btw, as you just showed that the material that the earth is made up from is older than any of the radiometric dates for any object of evidence that has been dated.

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It may have escaped your notice, but 'substantial' is the opposite of 'imaginary'.
Which says nothing about the substantial time that is covered by the evidence.

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Correlation, far from validating evodates, merely helps one maintain that they don't invalidate themselves.
And if they are not invalidated then they are ... (what's the opposite of invalidated?)? The other thing that these correlations do is they invalidate the concept that the methods are wildly inaccurate, what they show is the range of errors in the systems, the tolerance of the measurements. Even with inaccuracies of 10% there is still plenty of evidence that the world is billions of years old.

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Misleading. They measure physical qualities, apply assumptions, and conclude age.
They apply physics and chemistry as we know it today and they end up with consistently correlated dates at every layer, they correlate for depth in the calcite, the amount of thorium present and the amount of protactinium, and it just all happens to end up with the same age. Consistant, layer by layer by layer by layer.

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'Highly correlated' isn't the same as 'perfectly correlated'. Are there discrepancies? How many discrepancies are required to disqualify an hypothesis?
"Highly correlated" is a relative term based on correlation factors.

http://torque.oncloud8.com/archives/000579.html
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The term "highly correlated" is vague. When are two variables or to datasets considered highly correlated? Correlation is often computed using the product-moment correlation coefficient or, in some circles, Pearson's correlation coefficient. This measure outputs a value between -1 and 1, i.e., negatively correlated to positively correlated. That's fine and good, but what do you call 0.78? Thanks to Savannah State University for giving a citable reference on this issue:
  • "r" ranging from zero to about .20 may be regarded as indicating no or negligible correlation.
  • "r" ranging from about .20 to .40 may be regarded as indicating a low degree of correlation.
  • "r" ranging from about .40 to .60 may be regarded as indicating a moderate degree of correlation.
  • "r" ranging from about .60 to .80 may be regarded as indicating a marked degree of correlation.
  • "r" ranging from about .80 to 1.00 may be regarded as indicating high correlation [1].
Pretty arbitrary* huh?
You can probably find other sources on statistics, and then we can talk about what the "r" value is and how it is calculated ... we don't know whether they are talking 0.80 or 0.99 ...

and it really is just another added correlation to the correlations between layers of calcite, levels of thorium and levels of protactinium, from an entirely different source, but still showing substantially the same results.

If we assume it is 0.80 then -- as a worst case -- the age of the Devil's hole calcite is 567,700 +/-20% -- or from 454,160 to 681,240 years old -- still way older than any YEC model I am aware of.

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Oh I should like to challenge that statement. I've looked into similar claims in the past & found them false. Please name your best candidate for an element which isn't soluble. I don't intend to play spam games, so if you provide a list, I will choose one myself.

I see your source doesn't tell a straight story.
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... but thorium is insoluble in water ... but essentially no thorium (because of its much lower concentrations in the water) ...
I guess they could mean 'relatively insoluble' rather than 'absolutely insoluble'...
Do you think there is anything that is absolutely insoluble in water? Certainly what they can do is measure the relative solubility of different elements etc.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insoluble
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In a solution, the solvent is generally a liquid, which can be a pure substance or a mixture.[4] The species that dissolves, the solute, can be a gas, another liquid, or a solid. Solubilities range widely, from infinitely soluble such as ethanol in water, to poorly soluble, such as silver chloride in water. The term insoluble is often applied to poorly soluble compounds, although in some cases insolubility means that a compound is very poorly soluble.
What we have here is an isotope that is very soluble decaying into one that is substantially less (a lot less) soluble, and thus you have deposition of the new isotope atoms on the substrate, where they get locked in place by the calcite.

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Yes, the curve is exponential, and it's not hard to play tricks with the math. One could calculate 1/4 lives, 1/3 lives, or 1/277 lives for decaying elements. All will result in different exponential curves.
Sadly for you this is a totally false statement. Very simply, the "1/4 life" would be the time it takes for a sample to decay to the point where only 1/4 of the original amount is left. This would take the same time, and end up at the same concentration, as waiting for 2 half-lives of any isotope.

If you want, I can go through the math and prove it (this is math now).

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All are abstractions based upon the (calculated) chance of a given atom decaying in a given timeframe. One could directly calculate the number of atoms involved and directly apply probabilities to the result without ever employing the 1/2 life abstraction.
Correct, and curiously you would still end up with the same time span for the ages of the calcite layers by thorium and identical ages for the calcite layers by protactinium.

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I haven't dug into the history of this convention, but I have little confidence in it.
And, curiously, the entire universe is unperturbed by your lack of confidence. No radioactive atoms sit up waiting for you to approve their decay.

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The wikisource glosses over this, claiming the halflife method is "more intuitive". Just compare the formulas to see which is simple & intuitive and which adds complexity.
Which is still irrelevant to the issue of calcite deposits and actual quantities of thorium and protactinium that all agree on the age vs depth correlation. You can use any of the formulas they give and you end up with the same results: 567,700 years.

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Come now, I think we all know the basis of your conclusions.
Logical conclusions based on evidence.

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Post is long & time is short. I intend to get around to more. LindaLou's first in line, so I'll be taking that into consideration.
That's fine, just don't forget that there is a lot here left unanswered.

Enjoy.