Allrigthy, I missed LL's above post to me so shall try and address...

LL: Jeanie, I'm not sure where you picked up the idea that I believe in intelligent design. I did say that I don't think evolution is incompatible with the idea of God having created life and used evolution as a means of developing it.

You would best define me as an agnostic, and also a bit of a mystic. I believe that God literally comes from all things, including the interconnectedness of life. We are God, everything is God. I don't personalise the transcendent, I don't see a person in the sky who designs everything and rules all our fates. It's more of an Eastern philosophy and it isn't very Biblical, but there you go.

How does any knowledge veer us away from wisdom?
ith the following conversations:

Jeanie: I am more "up" on the labels now, (but don't like labels in general) and guess I assumed from what you had responded to me in the past that you did believe in God in a more traditional sense. Now all your posts make more sense. My honest belief, though, is that you are not completely at peace about this. You're back to be hardened now...but I've seen you not be so. Of course I can't say that with any certainty, but it's a sense I get. You actually think even the way some Christians do when they think He is all around us. Not so unique, actually. The mystic is just spiritual in whatever form. How in the world though, can you say believing in a God ruling the universe is not Biblical?

As far as knowledge veering from wisdom...that IS biblical and I see it happening here. You think you are self sufficient in your own reasoning powers or the theories of man. For one thing it is an empty way to be and feel. And it surely isn't in line with true wisdom.

On that note, though, I don't blame you for leaving the Catholic church. I'm not meaning to be insulting to the good Catholics out there......but they were the original apostate church. Plain and precious truths of the Gospel have been removed centuries back including the nature of God and our relationship to him. Catholics don't even use the whole Bible, do they? I'm not sure about that one, but not what I'm basing this on. They were what I call the first compromise between church and state. The govt. took on Christianity and put it in their own form to rule with.... No wonder you became disillusioned.