RAZD or anyone? As a very lay person not studied on the subject and wholly objective I honestly don't see how the evidence here is conclusive either way. How do we know how the flood cleared? It makes sense to me anyway that the canyons were there and not necessarily formed by the flood anyway. What about the big crater, too, there in AZ? Obviously some heavy stuff happened in that area other than the flood, too. BUT - what about the great salt lake? How do you explain that?