Originally Posted by RAZD
Interesting argument CTD:

Originally Posted by CTD
Originally Posted by LindaLou
We've had claims, for example, that the Grand Canyon was carved by a global flood, but no one is trying to refute any of the geological evidence on that thread.
You & RAZD created that straw man; why should anyone else back it up? Especially when it's such a healthy individual! You're lucky he lacks offensive capacity, that's what I think. Judging by his endurance and skill, you guys'd be in a world of trouble.
Are you claiming that not one creationist has claimed that the Grand Canyon was carved by a biblical flood? Have you seen the Hovind video? Read ikesters comments? Note for the record that a straw man is a weakened or diluted version of the actual argument:

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Straw man fallacy - Presenting an opponent's position in a weak, misrepresented, or totally false way, which is absurd or easily refuted.
Now correct me if I'm wrong, but Hovind states that the canyon was carved by the sudden release of water left behind by the flood when it breached the Kaibab ridge, and ikester has several times mentioned the flood as a cause of the erosion of the Grand Canyon.

There is also a book Grand Canyon: A Different View, by Wilfred A. Elders

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Includes 20 Essays from Leading Grand Canyon Authorities:
Steve Austin
John Baumgardner
Ken Cumming
Duane Gish
Werner Gitt
Ken Ham
Bill Hoesch
Russ Humphreys
Alex Lalomov
Henry Morris
John Morris
Gary Parker
Andrew Snelling
Keith Swenson
Larry Vardiman
Tas Walker
John Whitcomb
Carl Wieland
Kurt Wise
Are you saying that none of these people have said the canyon was carved by a biblical flood?

Of course you could show that the statement "the Grand Canyon was carved by a global flood" is a weak, misrepresented, or totally false portrayal of creationist explanations for the Grand Canyon by actually showing what the creationist explanation is and what is missing from the statement "the Grand Canyon was carved by a global flood" ... as once again it is easy to claim that a logical fallacy has been committed, it is another to actually demonstrate that this is so, and to claim it when in fact no straw man representation was used is a falsehood.

Enjoy.

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