|
|
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 1,315
Master Elite Member
|
You also seem to be claiming that we can know nothing about the history of the earth or the life on it because we weren't there. I missed that claim. Where does that leave forensic science then? Does that invalidate every investigation of a crime scene, because the police weren't there, or do you think there are sometimes clues left behind that we can study? We do have a thread about investigating history. Will I need to transplant this as well? Please don't. http://herballure.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=39071#Post39071Oh, but he said "Please don't", didn't he? Well, the fact that he included this in his response indicates he probably thinks the argument may sway someone - otherwise why publish it again? Discussing things in the proper thread is just the right thing to do, and I'm actually pleased if it cuts down on clutter and confusion. It'd cut down further if these issues were posted in the proper thread to begin with, but there appears to be a strong aversion to the practice in general, and this thread in particular. First thing to note: the claim is totally absent, and its existence isn't supported in by the question. Forensic science is valid, so long as it is performed properly and understood in perspective. Not all evidence at a crime scene is terribly useful. Only that which actually has an impact on the investigation. One could look into the composition of the paint on the walls with all the tools available and not find a single clue as to the value of stolen jewelry. Indeed, if forensic science were so all-powerful, there'd be no need for witnesses, no need for video tape, and no need to test more than one or two items. All crimes could be solved merely by testing the air in the room or the wax on the furniture. There is much that cannot be learned by examining physical evidence. Does the most detailed examination of a pyramid tell us the names of its builders, or the contents of their conversations? So far, it hasn't even told us how it was built!
Dark Matter + Dark Energy = Dark Truth"We find that such evidence demonstrates that the ID argument is dependent upon setting a scientifically unreasonable burden of proof for the theory of evolution." - Judge Jones Kitzmiller case http://www.talkreason.org/articles/Falsify.cfm"To Compel A Man To Furnish Funds For The Propagation Of Ideas He Disbelieves And Abhors Is Sinful And Tyrannical." - Thomas Jefferson "And can the liberties of a nation be thought secure when we have removed their only firm basis, a conviction in the minds of the people that these liberties are the gift of God? That they are not to be violated but with his wrath?" - Thomas Jefferson
|
|
|
|
Entire Thread
|
History rules
|
CTD
|
04/09/08 09:41 AM
|
Re: History rules
|
LinearAq
|
04/09/08 12:47 PM
|
Re: History rules
|
CTD
|
04/09/08 06:38 PM
|
Re: History rules
|
LinearAq
|
04/10/08 06:17 PM
|
Re: History rules
|
CTD
|
04/10/08 09:41 PM
|
Re: History rules
|
LinearAq
|
04/11/08 02:46 PM
|
Re: History rules
|
CTD
|
04/12/08 01:06 AM
|
Re: History rules
|
LinearAq
|
04/14/08 12:30 PM
|
Re: History rules
|
SoSick
|
04/14/08 08:03 PM
|
Re: History rules
|
LinearAq
|
04/14/08 09:40 PM
|
Re: History rules
|
Pwcca
|
04/14/08 10:06 PM
|
Re: History rules
|
Bex
|
04/14/08 11:34 PM
|
Re: History rules
|
Bex
|
04/15/08 12:46 AM
|
Re: History rules
|
Bex
|
04/15/08 01:40 AM
|
Re: History rules
|
CTD
|
04/15/08 08:39 AM
|
Re: History rules
|
SoSick
|
04/15/08 03:37 AM
|
Re: History rules
|
SoSick
|
04/15/08 04:36 AM
|
Re: History rules
|
Bex
|
04/15/08 11:14 AM
|
Re: History rules
|
CTD
|
04/15/08 02:23 PM
|
Re: History rules
|
Bex
|
04/15/08 09:54 PM
|
Re: History rules
|
Bex
|
04/16/08 02:29 AM
|
Re: History rules
|
LinearAq
|
04/30/08 02:50 PM
|
Re: History rules
|
LinearAq
|
04/28/08 03:35 PM
|
Re: History rules
|
CTD
|
04/28/08 04:11 PM
|
Re: History rules
|
LinearAq
|
04/28/08 06:19 PM
|
Re: History rules
|
CTD
|
04/29/08 05:32 AM
|
Re: History rules
|
Pwcca
|
04/29/08 06:26 AM
|
Re: History rules
|
CTD
|
04/29/08 07:27 AM
|
Re: History rules
|
LinearAq
|
04/29/08 03:39 PM
|
Re: History rules
|
CTD
|
04/30/08 04:20 AM
|
More good news
|
CTD
|
05/11/08 05:49 PM
|
Re: More good news
|
SoSick
|
05/11/08 06:25 PM
|
Re: History rules
|
Bex
|
04/30/08 05:03 AM
|
Re: History rules
|
LinearAq
|
04/30/08 02:30 PM
|
Re: History rules
|
Bex
|
04/29/08 07:46 AM
|
Re: History rules
|
CTD
|
04/15/08 07:33 AM
|
Re: History rules
|
CTD
|
06/29/08 09:51 PM
|
Re: History rules
|
CTD
|
06/30/08 12:15 AM
|
Re: History rules ... no, the question is what is true.
|
RAZD
|
06/30/08 12:57 AM
|
Just a note
|
RAZD
|
06/30/08 01:31 AM
|
Re: Just a note
|
CTD
|
06/30/08 05:29 AM
|
Re: Just a note
|
Kitsune
|
06/30/08 06:09 AM
|
Muddy Waters
|
Kitsune
|
06/30/08 09:09 PM
|
Re: Muddy Waters
|
CTD
|
06/30/08 10:37 PM
|
Re: Muddy Waters
|
LinearAq
|
07/02/08 12:58 PM
|
Re: Muddy Waters
|
Kitsune
|
07/02/08 01:44 PM
|
Re: Muddy Waters
|
CTD
|
07/03/08 08:19 AM
|
Re: Muddy Waters
|
Kitsune
|
07/03/08 08:46 PM
|
Re: Muddy Waters
|
CTD
|
07/04/08 01:56 AM
|
Re: Muddy Waters
|
CTD
|
07/04/08 02:58 AM
|
Re: Muddy Waters
|
Kitsune
|
07/04/08 07:27 AM
|
Re: Muddy Waters
|
CTD
|
07/03/08 08:29 AM
|
Re: Muddy Waters
|
LinearAq
|
07/03/08 12:12 PM
|
Re: Muddy Waters
|
CTD
|
07/03/08 02:04 PM
|
Re: Muddy Waters
|
Pwcca
|
07/03/08 06:09 PM
|
Re: Muddy Waters
|
LinearAq
|
07/03/08 06:30 PM
|
Re: Just a note
|
CTD
|
07/03/08 09:39 AM
|
Re: Just a note
|
RAZD
|
07/03/08 12:26 AM
|
Re: Just a note
|
CTD
|
07/03/08 06:51 AM
|
Re: Just a note
|
RAZD
|
07/05/08 12:22 AM
|
Re: Just a note
|
CTD
|
07/09/08 10:38 AM
|
Re: Just a note
|
RAZD
|
07/10/08 01:51 AM
|
Idols
|
Russ
|
07/10/08 10:46 PM
|
Re: Idols
|
RAZD
|
07/10/08 10:52 PM
|
Re: Just a waste
|
CTD
|
07/11/08 09:22 AM
|
Re: Just a waste
|
RAZD
|
07/13/08 07:11 PM
|
Re: Just a waste
|
CTD
|
07/15/08 08:28 AM
|
Re: Just a waste
|
Kitsune
|
07/15/08 04:54 PM
|
Re: Just a waste
|
Pwcca
|
07/15/08 09:24 PM
|
Re: Just a waste
|
RAZD
|
07/15/08 11:30 PM
|
Re: Just a waste
|
Jeanie
|
07/16/08 12:46 AM
|
a small explanation, perhaps
|
RAZD
|
07/16/08 03:25 AM
|
Re: a small explanation, perhaps
|
Jeanie
|
07/16/08 03:46 AM
|
Re: a small explanation, perhaps
|
Pwcca
|
07/16/08 11:11 AM
|
Re: a small explanation, perhaps
|
Jeanie
|
07/17/08 11:57 PM
|
Re: a small explanation, perhaps
|
Jeanie
|
07/18/08 12:00 AM
|
Re: a small explanation, perhaps
|
Kitsune
|
07/18/08 07:05 AM
|
Re: a small explanation, perhaps
|
Jeanie
|
07/18/08 03:21 PM
|
Re: a small explanation, perhaps
|
Kitsune
|
07/18/08 04:14 PM
|
Re: a small explanation, perhaps
|
Jeanie
|
07/18/08 04:45 PM
|
Re: a small explanation, perhaps
|
Pwcca
|
07/18/08 10:16 PM
|
Re: a small explanation, perhaps
|
Jeanie
|
07/19/08 01:06 AM
|
Re: a small explanation, perhaps
|
Pwcca
|
07/18/08 10:05 PM
|
Re: a small explanation, perhaps
|
Jeanie
|
07/19/08 01:01 AM
|
Re: Just a note
|
RAZD
|
07/05/08 02:40 PM
|
Re: Just a note
|
CTD
|
06/30/08 06:32 AM
|
Transplant - Pt. 1
|
CTD
|
08/08/08 10:32 AM
|
Transplant - Pt. 2
|
CTD
|
08/08/08 10:48 AM
|
Re: Transplant - Pt. 2
|
CTD
|
08/09/08 04:39 PM
|
Re: History rules
|
CTD
|
08/09/08 07:02 PM
|
Re: History rules
|
CTD
|
12/03/08 02:50 AM
|
Re: History rules
|
Jeanie
|
12/07/08 05:14 PM
|
Re: History rules
|
Mordecai
|
12/14/08 05:50 PM
|
Re: History rules
|
CTD
|
12/15/08 12:22 AM
|
Re: History rules
|
Mordecai
|
01/20/09 02:55 PM
|
Re: History rules
|
Bex
|
01/20/09 11:13 PM
|
Re: History rules
|
CTD
|
01/21/09 02:24 AM
|
Re: History rules
|
CTD
|
01/21/09 01:00 PM
|
Re: History rules
|
Bex
|
03/02/09 09:33 AM
|
Re: History rules
|
Kitsune
|
03/02/09 05:51 PM
|
Re: History rules
|
Kitsune
|
03/02/09 10:15 PM
|
Re: History rules
|
CTD
|
03/02/09 11:32 PM
|
Re: History rules
|
Kitsune
|
03/02/09 11:46 PM
|
Re: History rules
|
Russ
|
03/03/09 03:19 PM
|
Re: History rules
|
Kitsune
|
03/03/09 03:37 PM
|
Re: History rules
|
Russ
|
03/04/09 03:10 PM
|
Re: History rules
|
Russ
|
03/04/09 03:11 PM
|
Re: History rules
|
CTD
|
03/05/09 11:47 AM
|
Re: History rules
|
Kitsune
|
03/05/09 04:01 PM
|
Re: History rules
|
Russ
|
03/05/09 07:20 PM
|
Re: History rules
|
Kitsune
|
03/05/09 08:43 PM
|
Re: History rules
|
Russ
|
03/06/09 06:53 PM
|
Re: History rules
|
Kitsune
|
03/06/09 07:23 PM
|
Re: History rules
|
Russ
|
03/07/09 04:07 PM
|
Re: History rules
|
Kitsune
|
03/07/09 04:36 PM
|
Re: History rules
|
Russ
|
03/09/09 10:13 PM
|
Re: History rules
|
Kitsune
|
03/10/09 07:32 AM
|
Re: History rules
|
Russ
|
03/10/09 01:59 PM
|
Re: History rules
|
Kitsune
|
03/10/09 04:28 PM
|
Re: History rules
|
Russ
|
03/11/09 05:18 PM
|
Re: History rules
|
Kitsune
|
03/11/09 06:03 PM
|
Re: History rules
|
knowitalls
|
03/11/09 06:54 PM
|
Re: History rules
|
CTD
|
03/12/09 01:45 AM
|
This applies....how?
|
LinearAq
|
03/12/09 12:16 PM
|
Re: This applies....how?
|
CTD
|
03/12/09 03:09 PM
|
Not Getting It
|
Russ
|
03/12/09 03:35 PM
|
The antiquity of this Controversy
|
CTD
|
04/05/09 10:31 AM
|
Re: History rules
|
CTD
|
08/10/10 01:33 AM
|
|
|
|