Originally Posted by RAZD
Typical CTD.

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Source uses terms bend and meander interchangeably.
So you are equivocating all uses of bends and meanders into one process. What a surprise.
So, you misstate the situation. I took steps to prevent equivocation. Thanks for expressing your displeasure.

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You started talking about bends when you said that water flow bends around obstacles: this is not the same thing as a meander, and I am not aware of anyone claiming that water meanders around obstacles. So bends around obstacles would not be classed as meanders.

Nor does this in any way provide evidence that the formation in this picture was formed by flood waters:

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You say "bends around obstacles would not be classed as meanders" and post that pic! Now folks, is it your brains or your eyesight RAZD underestimates?

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Seeing as I keep repeating this image, there can be no doubt in anyones mind that I am talking about these types of formations, no matter what you call them, and the fact remains that these formations do not form during flood conditions.
You said it - not me.

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Flood waters tend to flow straight (follow the energy gradient rather than any bottom configuration), and this also means flowing straight over obstacles when those obstacles are covered by the flood waters, including the peninsula's of ox-bow meanders, carving new channels in the process.

The fact remains that there is no evidence of this behavior in the Grand Canyon.
In how many evoyears' worth of floods? If you pulled peoples' legs as hard literally as you do figuratively, we'd all be amputees.

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Should evidence come up that this or that meander formed when he said it shouldn't, ...
Curiously all you need to do is show evidence that a flood has made a meander like the one in the picture above and you know I will agree that you have invalidated my point.

So do you have evidence, or just more equivocating red-herring nit-picks on terminology that don't amount to a hill of beans for how the Grand Canyon actually formed.
Not much more evidence is needed. The pictures you've chosen are a good start, perhaps enough that nothing further will be required.

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