Jeanie, have a great time I'll add to my post on the mercury forum when I'm feeling a little better.

Ikester, I've pointed out before where Hovind is wrong. I particularly am not happy about what he says because I feel he misrepresents his position; he implies (without actually saying in so many words) that he was a mainstream physics teacher who realised that the textbooks were full of lies, and had a conversion to the "truth." This is not honest but it makes for good rhetoric. I've spoken about him before but my etiquette has got better since then. Do you work on yours, too?

I've also read about other creationists like Baumgardner, Woodmorappe, and Austin who use what they know about science to put forward "evidence" for creationism which appears scientific but which does not stand up to scrutiny. For example, Austin has deliberately set up radiometric dating exercises to fail. There is evidence for all of these claims and they are simple facts. As has been said before, why is it "hateful" to present the truth in a forum like this? This is usually the only place I even talk about creationism; the rest of the time I get on with my life.