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We know from scripture God created "man" from the dust of the earth and breathed a living soul into Him. In fact, when we talk about "natural processes"... who created nature? How is it "unnatural" to believe things happened in just the way it was stated? If one believes in God, He created nature and nature is in subjection to Him. So what's so "unnatural" about believing in the scriptual account as is? God spoke and it was. He only has to SPEAK something into existing. If He's the Creator at all, He is not at all limited by "time", since He Himself created time. He has no beginning, nor an end. There is no reason why He required billions of years of evolution to achieve a thing. It seems scripture indicates immediate creation, or have I read it wrong? God spoke, and so it was. Did he have a billions of years "stutter"?
No offense, but I don't know if instantaneous creation can be written off so readily, as I see no reason why it could not have occured as God stated. Miracles/supernatural events are often instantaneous when it's God doing the work. He does not seem to require time, unless of course He allows a slower healing for reasons of His own.
According to the bible, God breathed life into the first two human beings and instructed them, and all other life to be fruitful and multiply (reproduce after their own kind). And all living things tend to gravitate to their own kind and do just that. You get deviations of course, perversions, but the majority follow the natural instinct/law implanted within us.
I honestly do not see the issue with this at all. Since nobody knows otherwise what took place in the beginning, is it not reasonable to assume that perhaps God was actually telling us the truth all along? I sure hope so, or if that's not the case, how can we then be sure of the promises of Christ? Or believe them in the way they are stated? One can see how compromise and uncertainty can start unravelling the entire thing. If one questions the Genesis account OR the way it was told, it is not unreasonable to assume it can then be done with Christ. This is how it can lead to confusion and in some cases disbelief.
Not all of course, some retain their faith in Christ irrespective of origin beliefs. I find that pretty astounding, but all power to them. You're correct though Linear, salvation is through the blood of Christ on the cross NOT genesis, but consider why it was done? Where did it begin? If one unravels or screws with the beginning, it can certainly do it to the rest. Some people aint quite so resilient! Since we do not know EXACTLY how things were done, we only have God's word as stated. I'd not shift too far from that if I were a Christian, as I will be held accountable for making statements that God did not make, nor were they hinted at. You might continue to believe and all power to you, but others can really have their faith undermined. We're all different and some can start to contemplate "if I cannot trust the first account as God told it, why then should I trust the way Christ told it?"
It can and does happen. And sadly unnecessarily too. There is no reason to doubt Him and the way He told it.
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