Excuse me Jeanie, but I did not pull Russ into this. I have never once pm'd Russ complaining about the information posted or behavior of another member of this forum. Not that I have never been offended Jeanie, but I can take care of my own problems. Those I create, and even those I don't which others create for me.

To the best of my knowledge, in this instance, you pulled Russ into this.

Take your own advice please instead of just giving it to others.

And to Russ, as I did say already to you personally, I am sorry, for your sake. and I do truly mean it.

I actually am rarely sarcastic Jeanie. Though you may think I am being sarcastic, I'm not. I am simply not letting you push me around because you don't like my perspective. I'm simply being honest with you. I do not like being lied to. I do not like being treated like a dummy. I do not like being inappropriately used for a bad example of someone else's misgivings.

Find yourself a different scapegoat.

and don't talk about your religion in public if the details of it embarrass you. If you want to parade yourself and your church around as Christian, expect the same scrutiny we Christians give to all of our churches.