http://herballure.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=24517#Post24517There may be others I haven't checked every place I ever posted a photo Russ but if you archived these photos you probaly archived the others. The only person who could have reposted material into my posts is you. I never saw a pm asking about which thread they were in, sorry.
I have told you in detail why I am disappointed with and sad about the condition of the modern church.
Do you have a problem with that?
When a lot of the things you say are not true Russ, yes I have a problem with it. By your own admission you do not attend church or fellowship with Christians anywhere, yet you make blanket stements that condemn the churches, as an outsider looking in. You do not know these people, yet you judge them. You belittle them for having faith while you spend your time running in circles fear mongering.
You are misrepresenting me in a big way sister....
not really Russ.
... Also, as I've told people before, I am very open to letting people speak freely, but I draw the line on slander, and you have said things in your previous posts that are really misrepresenting me.
Not really Russ. Seems to me you draw the line on people slandering you, or your pecerption that someone is slandering you, but you don't give a hoot when others are slandered. You have allowed people to use some of the most vile language with me personally Russ, for no reason other than the fact That I had simply mentioned the name Jesus here and there (originally) or presnted an opinion that opposed other religions or non-religious beliefs. Exactly when have you drawn the line when people have slandered me Russ? never Russ. You take a middle ground that says, Sos, don't say things that irritate people, and to others you will say SoS has some strong views. In other words Russ,. when people curse at me or accuse me of whatever, it's always my fault.
Fine it's always my fault. That is where you have repeatedly drawn the line Russ. Irregardless of the fact that all I have ever usually done is mention the name of Jesus or proclaim my faith, or presented facts that others couldn't argue with and this they have resorted to slander instead.
What exactly do you think my motives are?
I have no idea what your motives are. But they defintely exist.
First off, I don't use that word SS.
Secondly, I didn't know you wanted an apology. I don't even know why?
Russ, at the point you require me to apologoze to others without ever requiring anyone to apologize to me, I'd say that there is a perception problem.
Third, If you want me to boldly stand up and point out people's faults, and if you so aptly do it with others (as we have all witnessed you do), then why are you so offended when I tell you what disappoints me about the current state of the Christian church?
Um, doesn't that seem a little, um... hypocritical?
I never said I wanted you to boldy stand up and point out people's faults. I am not offended when you tell me you are disappointed with the church. In that regard, what is offensive is your lack of real world contact with the people you are discussing and condemning. Concerning your views of the church, they are rather full of worldly anti-church propoganda... and contain many non-truths. Standing on the outside looking in is not a place from which to form an opinion Russ. I do hope the items I pointed out to you in regard to problems within the church, from an insider, are helpful to you.
By your own logic, you want me to do it to other people, but if my view of the modern church rubs you the wrong way, then, well, I just better keep my mouth shut.
Is it time for a little self examination, perhaps?
I never said that either Russ and it's interesting that you perceive my statements that way. I do know how you feel. What I said is that when you ask me to apologize to someone for presenting facts about certain things , which facts might well offend them when made public and are often repulsive to many as well, you are in essence telling me, and others, to shut up. Perhaps it is a time for a bit of self examination
Finally, what ever happened to that scripture about going to someone privately first if they have offended you?
Remember? Privately first. With a mediator second. To the congregation third.
Excuse me Russ, but that scripture is applied within the church (eg; mediator/congregation), which you, by your own admission, are not a member of.
and that is a perfect example of the various misuses of scripture that you attempt that are, in actually, rather offensive. You yourself are neither the mediator, nor the congregation, Russ. And this webboard is not the church.
