CTD, I promised Russ that every time he links us to a Hovind vid, I'd link him to a website which responds to many of Hovind's claims.

You've done it again Russ, so here goes:
Buddika's 300 Creationist Lies Index

As long as you are unwilling to summarise any points yourself and seem to think that your link is the only argument you need, then I'll say the same for this one. We can decline to watch/read each other's links and close this forum down.

CTD you'll note that I said some insulting things about Hovind at one point. I would not speak in this way to another poster, and in hindsight I should not have said them about Hovind, though if you'd like me to provide evidence for why he's said some idiotic things I can find it in spades for you -- especially seeing as how he claims to have taught physics (and the basic scientific errors he's made have filled me with horror and pity for his students). I have avoided talking about anyone like that since then. Do you claim that my comments about your own ad hominem remarks are inaccurate? Do I write threads with titles like "Creationism: The Big Joke"? Do I make comments about Bible Blinders(TM) like your "evogoggles"? I could think up all sorts of jokey things to say which I'm sure you'd be amused by, just like we're all amused by your and Ikester's continual comments about evolutionists. On second thought, maybe not.

The last of my comments you quoted from was in response to another creationist poster, currently absent from discussions here, who had fun with calling me bad at my job, uneducated, a bad mother, dumb, and a yokel. I don't believe those kinds of comments are acceptible on any forum and I was frankly frustrated that Russ allows people to behave that way here without issuing warnings.

Moving on to the pertinent issue here, I notice that in your entire post CTD, you have not addressed one single point about the Grand Canyon. How else to do you think you are going to demonstrate the scientific nature of creationism? Complaining about posters doesn't constitute evidence.