Originally Posted by Jeanie
I'm coming in kind of cold here without looking all the way up, but the part you are quoting from Revelation, CTD, we believe to be about the upcoming Millenial Reign where satan and his fellow demons will be chained or not allowed to affect us here on the earth for that period. The earth will be changed (I believe the cleansing will have happened? Not sure - it has already been baptized, (the flood), and the cleansing will be like the gift of the holy ghost, (by fire!) anyway - the absolutely wicked will have been swept from the earth and, although not all will still accept the Gospel, those willing to abide a terrestrial law will still remain. But anyway - the point is this is literally a thousand year reign. We are nearing the end of the 6th thousand year reign and are heading soon into the earth's sabbath so to speak. Christ will reign on the earth...govern it. Not quite heaven yet, but not like now. And resurrected beings will be here.... Not an expert even on what we believe on that, but thats the jist.
Be kind of a let-down, if one applies the 'one day = one thousand years' principle.

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I just read somewhere, though, that we don't know that each creative "day" was exactly the same. But it was obviously more than a day as we know it by far.
One can read a lot of things a lot of places. As Eve learned, not everyone can be trusted to give you good information.

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I also, too, just read about the matter issue... All matter is eternal in that it is not destructible - matter just turns into different forms. (Scientists know that except some may not have thought of it quite in those terms??? (Have you scientists??)
Could be Greek philosophy; could be all sorts of sources. "Current thinking" along those lines is that the universe must eventually face a "heat death" when all matter and energy are inevitably converted to infrared light.

'Eternal matter', like all old-earth systems, is not derived from scripture, but imposed upon it. Such doctrines won't keep one from being forgiven, but they're analogous to tying one arm behind one's back, usually one's good arm.

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So when the earth was created it was using that pre-existent matter.....it was simply organized... (and had previously been chaotic or unorganized). All things had to be put into place so that what we would need on this earth would be there before we were placed here. (Oil, etc.)
You may be thinking there's something to this "matter always was" business, but it's just an assumption. There is no need for time, space, matter, or energy to have always been. Such assumptions actually clutter things up considerably.

As with any investigation of history, I maintain things need to be reconciled and verified. One can go to great lengths to reconcile compromises, but their elements cannot be verified in the first place.


Dark Matter + Dark Energy = Dark Truth

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