Originally Posted by Bex
Linear, to be honest. I see that it really makes no difference at all to defend the biblical word to you. ....
My opinion actually does not come into this. But Christ's most definitely does come into it. ...
In the end, arguing against these fundamentals is not my issue. God/Christ set them up Himself. ...
You can reply to this however you wish Linear, ultimately you can take it up with Christ, as He is the one that spelled these things out afterall. It is fruitless to attack the messengers. If you don't like the message, that is your problem and between you and Christ.

I have quoted chapter and verse and said more than enough for anybody to read and understand and as the bible says "they are without excuse" and I totally agree. ....
Basically we must make a choice. Jesus Himself said "you are either for Me, or against Me". Pretending to be Christian, yet trying to twist and/or omit the words of Christ will hold no ground whatsoever. One maybe able to fool themselves and maybe even others for a time, but they won't fool Christ. And I am glad of it.


Why do you think I am arguing against the Bible or Christ? I understand what the Bible says and I am not saying it says anything different than what you are. I am not even misconstruing that you telling me what the Bible says means you want to force people to obey Biblical laws.

What I am saying is that there are people here who want Biblical laws to be the law in the US...except where that law would get rid of non-Christian religions.

When did Christ say we should make laws to force non-believers to conform to our moral code? Forcing people to pretend to be Christian won't save them...it is a change of heart. Heart changes don't happen through force or legislation. They happen through love.

Do you think that you calling gays disgusting sodomites will make them want to turn to the Christ you represent when they are in a crisis? You are not required to agree or accept what they do....you are required to love them.



A faith that connot survive collision with the truth is not worth many regrets. -- Arthur C. Clarke