The creation science model says the Grand Canyon has been flooded twice, and allows for about 4500 years of subsequent events. How many floods must have occurred in all your imaginary time?
Which does not answer the question of why the Grand Canyon cuts across the ridge at a point higher than places both north and south of the canyon:
Which was not the issue I was discussing. Haven't I explained that before? I'm sure I have. Are your goggles filtering even this simple information?
But you
are claiming that the Grand Canyon was carved by the flood,
There now. And for added perspective:
It also does not deal with the evidence of meanders and other features that are characteristic erosion and characteristic of the Grand Canyon.
I dealt directly with your meander assertions. If the meanders cannot survive for 4500 years, how can they be present if the river has been around since imaginary time? What events must one imagine if one is to account for this? You still do not answer.
It also does not deal with the evidence that features that are characteristic of flood flows are absent from the Grand Canyon.
No. I was not discussing your other assertions; I was discussing your meander assertion. I think this is pretty obvious. Unlike yourself, I try to communicate clearly, and discussing one thing at a time facilitates clear communications as I suspect you are aware. Why else would you avoid the practice?
Your pattern of whining when I clearly address an issue continues. Just to help you keep things straight now,
you do the obfuscating. If you can't handle it by yourself, I'm sure there are others who will be glad to pitch in. But I won't be doing your bidding.
Congratulations are in order, BTW. LindaLou has things exactly backwards from what you intend.
Like the meander issue nobody can solve?
Catastrophic floods don't cut meanders like the one in the picture RAZD has been reminding you of. You appear to be the only one here claiming that this is an unsolved issue, yet you have not presented any evidence of your own that this kind of feature actually
can be carved by a flood. Again, if you are going to claim that all scientists are wrong about this, we really need to see some evidence that this is so.
RAZD says floods cut meanders & result in a straight river. LindaLou says it ain't so. I'd be disappointed in my failure to make things clear for her, but since she hardly pays any attention to what I post, I don't feel too bad.
Or maybe LindaLou's trying to avoid the special pleading that seems inevitable if floods cut meanders and there's been all that evotime for the meanders to all be cut out. Too tough to say for sure, but I'm giving credit to RAZD's efforts here. Never known LindaLou to take steps to avoid a logical fallacy.
Now about those super-ancient meanders, any answers? Doesn't look like you'll be getting any help, so you might want to field this one yourself. And it is the responsible thing to do - you brought this on your team, after all.
The ones carved by erosion by a river that stays in it's banks? The ones that geology explains quite well with normal low flow type erosion processes? Ones like Horse Shoe Bend?
Erosion. Normal erosion, just as is observed in the canyon today. The original meanders were formed when the land was relatively flat, before the land was uplifted, but they have been "locked in place" as the gradual erosion of the river has cut through the uplifting rock as fast as it lifts up. It's really simple.
Curiously the geology explains all the features of the Grand Canyon with normal known geological processes, just as it explains layers and layers of 20 year old clams on mountaintops, no magic needed.
Enjoy.
No magic, just special pleading. No floods for 700,000 years or more, depending on which evocalendar one chooses. And how long ago did I predict this? Evidently so long you're hoping it's been forgotten.
It's a pleasure to disappoint you.
I suppose they could posit tens of millions of years passing with no flooding, and the faithful would buy into it, but those lacking the special predisposition are going to view this as a flaw. Evolutionism has had a long relationship with special pleading, so we shouldn't be surprised the marriage endure. (Actually, all logical fallacies are members of the harem.)
Further disappointment: I wasn't distracted enough to overlook this, either.
But you are claiming that the Grand Canyon was carved by the flood,
I suggest you take out your frustrations on this straw man before he retires & hits you up for a pension.
