Well I guess I have some issues with the idea of the fable.. Moroni et al... it's a nice story I'm sure but until Joseph Smith came along, and even until this day, the native indians, those who are suppose to be the people the story is about, they don't know the story, they have others, and none of their lineage can be found either.

So, that is a bit of a problem.

Have you ever had any serious discussions with psychics? they can speak to spirits, some of them you know... and certain spirits do know all sorts of little details about things... because they actually do exist on a certain level... and they interfere in people's lives etc... they lived at some point in the past etc... but spirits are not always truthful that is the problem.

If this guy moroni is suppose to be an angel that was once a man, why are there no other examples of this in the KJV? You'd think if anyone deserved to be an angel it would be Moses, maybe King David, but no, no such thing exists... and the idea that moroni's brethren are kept in chains and bondage... the only place angels are referred to in that respect is in regard to the fallen angels that kept not their first estate etc. The KJV tells us directly not to harken to revelations (new ideas, revealed things that are not revealed in scripture) of angels. The new age movement is so full of various angels for instance... and most of their teaching will lead a person straight to hell, they go well against what is taught in the bible. How do we follow two contrasting laws without acknowledging in our hearts that we are breaking one of them in order to follow the other? We give lip service to one but we lean on the other?

and then the mormon idea of being god of your own planet after you die from this life.. correct me if I am wrong there... but how is that a companion to the biblical idea of us spending our eternity with Jesus and YHVH in heaven, where God has many 'mansions' and Jesus has gone to prepare a place for us? The devil told Eve she would be like God, I do have to say, it sounds distinctly familar to the promises made by mormonism.

How do you expect to be one of the 10,000's of saints coming on the clouds with Jesus of you are a little god somewhere, no longer just a saint, on your own little planet somewhere?

None of this stuff is in the bible. Moses never knew it either. And Jesus never mentioned it once.