Originally Posted by SoSick
Originally Posted by LinearAq

BTW: I looked and could find no words of Christ that addressed fornication or homosexuality. Could you point them out for me?


Amazing you could miss it all:

Matthew 5:27 -
Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery:

Matthew 5:28 -
But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.
Did I say adultery?

However

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Matthew 5:32 -
But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery.

Matthew 19:9 -
And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery.

I guess I was wrong since fornication does seem to be a sin. My translations call it marital unfaithfulness (adultery). The only one that calls it fornication is my King James.

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Matthew 19:18 -
He saith unto him, Which? Jesus said, Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness,

Mark 10:11 -
And he saith unto them, Whosoever shall put away his wife, and marry another, committeth adultery against her.

Mark 10:12 -
And if a woman shall put away her husband, and be married to another, she committeth adultery.

Mark 10:19 -
Thou knowest the commandments, Do not commit adultery, Do not kill, Do not steal, Do not bear false witness, Defraud not, Honour thy father and mother.

Again Jesus refers to adultery. Are you saying adultery is the same as fornication?

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John 8:41 -
Ye do the deeds of your father. Then said they to him, We be not born of fornication; we have one Father, even God.

This is a reference by the Hebrews in the crowd that they were not illegitimate. Jesus does not say fornication or condemn it here.

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Luke 17:29 -
But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.
In context, Jesus is referring to the fact that the people of Sodom were not expecting the judgment and were unprepared for it. He said nothing about why they were judged.

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Luke 16:18 -
Whosoever putteth away his wife, and marrieth another, committeth adultery: and whosoever marrieth her that is put away from her husband committeth adultery.

Luke 18:20 -
Thou knowest the commandments, Do not commit adultery, Do not kill, Do not steal, Do not bear false witness, Honour thy father and thy mother.

Adultery again...not homosexuality or fornication.


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2 Peter 2:6 -
And turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrha into ashes condemned them with an overthrow, making them an ensample unto those that after should live ungodly;

Jude 1:7 -
Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.

These 2 are not quotes from Jesus.

Don't get me wrong. I believe that sex is not something that can just be used indiscriminately. It is a relationship builder within a marriage that communicates trust and openness.

It's just that Jesus seemed to be concentrating on things that had more basic importance.


A faith that connot survive collision with the truth is not worth many regrets. -- Arthur C. Clarke