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Quick one Bex:

I get the impression that you think I'm referring to you personally a lot of the time in comments I make. This isn't the case. It's your choice whether to talk here or not. I have spoken to a number of other creationists lately who have chosen to completely ignore the evidence contradicting their views, or at least correcting their inaccurate understanding of various scientific issues. They're not ready to deal with these things yet. If you want to include yourself in that group that's fine, but I was not thinking of you or the fact you hadn't participated here lately.


Hi Linda, it's kind of hard NOT to consider it personal when you use broad terms to describe "most creationists". You were not referring to one or a few regarding "running away". So I was curious who you meant? Considering the only other creationists are myself, Russ, Jeanie and Sosick....

You also did the same when you said you'd been called "dumb" and told you would "go to hell" by Christians... yet I don't recall "Creationists or Christians" (even a few) saying this (perhaps one?)..... You admitted afterwards that you didn't mean me. But to the reader? It most definitely does seem like most have said this to you and I wonder would they do the reading to bother checking?

I realise accusations have been spouted on both sides of the fence, which is expected in debates, but when it gets to accusing others of calling you dumb and going to hell, or they're "running away from facts" I feel that is taking it too far to describe "most" or even "some".

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Maybe you all should invite more creationists to come over here who are willing to engage more directly. I think CTD must appear "heoric" to you because he so stubbornly continues to waffle on at us and says "I don't believe it" and "scientisis are liars" over and over.


To be honest Linda, I don't belong to any debate forums out there. I drifted onto this because it was already on the herballure forums and as you know, I'm on the amalgam forum and have been now for two years. So I'm not overly well versed in creation/evolution debates (except on video) etc. Perhaps if I did belong to a creation/evolution forum, I might invite one or two creationists to lend a bit more fairness in the debate on here. But I certainly wouldn't want them coming in droves, unless the numbers were more equally matched. I think it's nice to have a "few" on here because it's not overloaded if you know what I mean. More of a personal touch, without being crowded out. No, I don't think I said CTD is heroic, I just meant I admired him. That's my personal feelings, you don't have to agree wink As I've read, I don't see the issue with his posts. He's provided ideas of what could be the cause and given links, what you choose to take onboard is your decision. You say he's dodging this or that, but I see that he's not overly keen to argue about stuff he's already addressed or is not even worth wasting more time about in his opinion.

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How do I have time for this? I don't watch TV. I am too ill to do many of the things I used to enjoy, such as going for hikes. It's something to pass the time with, learn from, and use to keep my mind sharp. And it interests me to see how far people are willing to ignore or deny evidence in order to preserve beliefs. Some good case studies here.


That wasn't a criticism of you being on this forum. I was referring to your concerns about absence or attendence of others (at least that's how I took it). I, like yourself, do not really watch TV and I am also ill. So I can understand being on here often. However, I think your comments of you're interested because you like to see how far people are willing to "ignore or deny evidence in order to preserve beliefs" is really only an opinion and a bias one at that, but not surprising. I think the readers can decide this for themselves don't you?