I've read this on a web that talks about Huggins removal protocol:

"16. Be absolutely certain that your IV during the dental procedures contains NO Vitamin B-12. B-12 in any form is a methylator, and methyl mercury is extremely damaging to your nervous system."

If I'm breathing mercury and take vit b12 woudn't be this dangerous?
Do you take vit-b complex with b-12?

Sergio

Dear Sergio, I didn't have any vitamins during or straight after removal. But I had a series of vitamin B12 injections on a regular basis last year and felt much better. Love Tracy x

Do not take any methylcobalamin. There are other forms that I don't get reactions from, such as hydroxocobalamin (perque makes this and its a very good b12) and there is also dibencozide which is a coenzemated b12 which doesn't give me reactions.

Methylcobalamin gives me horrendous tension and insomnia. The two forms above I get no bad reactions from and hopefully they are helping.

I take cyanocobalamin injections daily and it helps tremendously.

Hello captain,

cyanocobalamin injections daily?
can you give me more information about this?

What I experience, if I stop for two days, is severe pain in my back (another weak link in my system-due to an accident in my youth). Well then there is the increased irritability. :-)

So, I haven't stopped my B-12 injections for more than a day for quite some time.

I take 1 mL per day. From the bottle..."Each mL contains: Cyanocobalamin 1000 mcg...".

Of course, I'd get advise from a Doctor that knows your physiology. I have no idea what the ramifications of taking any of these different forms of B-12 might be for any given person.

I just know that this one helps me.

Does that help?

cyanocabalamin has cyanide in it and b-12 can actually helps detoxify cyanide so it might just cancel the cobalamin out. I would go with another form, either dibencozide or hydroxocobalamin.

Been using Hydroxocobalamin for three weeks now. Don't notice any difference thus far, except the expen$e. That's not to say I'm not deriving a health benefit - as I probably am and simply can't perceive it. For the past five years, with nearly every mercury related nightmare I've been through, I've been able to tell if something was good, bad or ugly (for me) VERY quickly.

Captain Mercury

I have to assume that Huggins must have been referring to IV B12 during amalgam removal, not routine dietary or supplemental B12.

B12 deficiency produces the same symptoms as mercury poisoning, including fatigue, depression, and poor memory. B12 deficiency can potentially cause severe and irreversible damage, especially to the brain and nervous system. B12 protects what mercury destroys - neurons, mylean sheath, etc...

We mercury-poisoned folk are told to not eat any meat - a major source of B12. Makes no sense, unless you want to devoid yourself of B12 and let the mercury in you destroy any B12 left. Want permanent neurological damage from mercury AND B12 deficiency?

I completely DISagree that we should not take B12 (IV B12 a possible exception but I do not know). I take A LOT of B12 supplements and eat dietary sources of B12 daily.

Is METHYLcobalamin bad? I take Methylcobalamin instead of cyanocobalamin. It really helps to combat mercury symptoms for me. Folic acid is also good to take with B12. I have searched every source close to me for B12 and the only forms I have found are methyl and cyano. I'd rather risk the methyl form and forgo the cyanide form.

For those that don't have malabsorption issues, when they stop eating meat, I understand that it takes a bit over a year for the Vitamin B-12 deficiency to start becoming a problem.

Basically, your body seems to be able to store it up and use it as needed over a substantial time period.

In my case, having malabsorption problems, even if I ate meat and if I could successfully digest it, I'd still have trouble getting the B12 absorbed.

Cobalamin is the largest molecule your body has to absorb. From what I understand, it is large enough that your intestine wall has to break somewhat just to get the Cobalamin in, then it heals itself.

So, with a malabsorption issue, it makes sense to take B12 by needle point.

I don't know that methylcobalamin is bad. My Doctor didn't comment about it because I decided to go with Hydroxocobalamin.

I've heard that the methyl form doesn't have to be converted in any way to be used by the body.

Also, given the physiological nuances from one person to another, one form may very well work well for one person for reasons not readily apparent yet today. If it is working, it's sure hard to argue with it.

Welcome Captain Mercury! (Although I just said good night just saw your post). I've always wondered; how does one know if you are deficient of B-12? My oldest was born in WA. Beautiful beautiful state!

I do better eating meat by the way... I use to try being vegetarian and never felt right. (partly cause I was eating LOTS of whole wheat which I found out doesn't agree with me). On that note, since I want to use all the wheat kernels I have, do any of you use wheatgrass or have opinions? I bought all the stuff to make my own, but some sprouts molded and didn't try after that. A little tricky that way.

Hi Jeanie,

Thanks for asking.

To be honest, that's a good question. I know my Doctor mentioned someone that had been brought to him in a wheel chair. My Doctor was so sad about it as he said that had they brought her sooner, she would be ambulatory again. And it was a B12 deficiency.

What I take away from that is namely this: B12 is a lot more important than we think and it pays to get things investigated early, it pays to be on forums like this one here and share information.

At the end of the day (or post), someone more knowledgeable about B12 deficiencies will probably need to answer that question for a quick answer. It is something I will probably research though, especially given my own need for B12 supplementation.

Personally, I've noticed that my back starts to sort of 'freeze up' if I go more than about 10 days between B12 shots. And my attitude begins to suffer as well.

Hope that helps Jeanie.

Hi Jeanie,

I hear you. I am a 'protein-type' myself. I don't eat meat anymore myself, but I do make certain to get more protein bearing portions of food than my wife or family take. It's not always easy to get enough protein such that I feel good after a meal. In fact, it is downright difficult sometimes.

If I could get an extremely clean source of meat, I'd probably go for it, sparingly, but just for the sake of another concentrated source of protein.

But that seems next to impossible.

The primary issue for me, as concerns meat, is the bio accumulation of pesticides. That is to say, even if you *think* you've got a good clean source of meat, the animal is probably exposed to pesticides that get on his otherwise wholesome food from nearby farming activities, which then bio accumulates in the animal.

And then when a human comes along and eats their flesh, he/she gets a nasty dose of pesticides.

And if you are mercury poisoned to begin with, you sure don't need any other nightmares to contend with...

My sister, on the other hand, doesn't eat anything with a face. Now, the Captain might be getting soft, well ahem, soft-er, but I am starting to see her point. And this from a guy who used to make terrible fun of vegetarians. Now I 'are' one. Well, a lacto-ovum vegetarian anyway.

All the best of health to you,

Captain Mercury