Yes, seeing the incredible details of the unborn baby can be a shock, but also a reminder that they are completely human and do not go through any such "fish stage" as we've been told. The full genetic information is there after conception - the only change that takes place is "growth" *the unfolding*, therefore the deliberate termination of their life at any stage can be classified as murder.

I do not believe that it is harsh to state that I believe abortion cannot be justified in any circumstance. I believe it is harsh to ever consider "murder" to the unborn as an option. Only God has the right to take life, not us. Rape and/or incest also do not justify it and if we say it can? Then we ourselves add a crime just as bad, if not worse than the original. We may as well say that if a child is BORN out of rape or incest, then perhaps if the Mother still has the child, but has second thoughts and decides the child is a distressing reminder - she can kill it then too? What is the difference? The child is precious from conception onwards and does not deserve murder then nor after it's born.

I understand that the victim herself has undergone dreadful trauma from the abuse and then becoming pregnant as a result. Carrying that child for 9 months, after conceiving it out of rape or incest? I cannot imagine that. However, let's consider this. Which is the worst of these crimes - rape, incest, child murder? If anybody should be killed out of this, should it not then be the perpetrator, rather than the child who is not responsible for the crime, nor the fact it was conceived?

There are many outlets now for councelling young women through so many of these traumas and unwanted or unexpected pregnancies that are FREE. There are adoption agencies crying out for children for couples who cannot even have kids. Abortion should not even be an option and to my mind there is no excuse.

In the circumstances where a Mother's life maybe in danger if she goes through with the pregnancy? That is a very very difficult moral dilemma. It is also not absolute what is going to happen in life and all is in God's hands. I think it takes a very special person to sacrifice the risk to die, in hopes to save their unborn child. It can and often does happen. In those that are in such a dilemma and don't know what to do? My heart goes out to them. We know a lady who was told that if she went through with her pregnancy, she would die. She chose to go through with it, rather than kill her unborn child. Both survived and are thriving.

The same thing with my friend's sister in law. Told she should abort the child, but she chose to go through with the pregnancy, both have survived so far and near the end of the pregnancy. She now needs to get a caesarian instead. Now, I'm not saying this happens in every case, but I personally would not like to take the life of my child to save myself, UNLESS I had no other choice and my already existing family would die without me. Personally as a believer, I would like to think I would put the matter in God's hands, trust him and not choose to take the child's life, even if my own were in danger.

Dying is not a sin, being a victim of abuse is not a sin, carrying a child conceived from abuse is not a sin, but killing another human being who is defenseless and innocent most definitely is. I hardly see that a victim of abuse who becomes pregnant is going to be "freed" because she aborts the child. You'd be surprised at how many girls wind up later psychologically tormented by it, rather than relieved.

If we are to believe there is a God, then how can anybody possibly feel there is any right to "kill" a child? Where does God state this is justifiable at any level? I understand there are mitigating circumstances and perhaps the person who went through with it was not fully aware, but only God can judge them personally. The act itself should be obolished. Nobody can stop someone from doing back-street abortions, but saying "well we should offer them, because they're going to do it anyway" is a total cop out. It's like saying "let's legalise this or that, because it's going to happen anyway".

It's a sin, it's a crime. I know I sound passionate Jeanie and it's not personal to you, but on this issue? I have zero tolerance for this atrocious act. In the end, the child belongs to God and it is He that has allowed the gift of life. Something that Barack Obama doesn't apparently believe in. He too stands for abortion, as does his wife. Even the bible mentions that we will be judged on how we treated the weakest among us! And what can be more vulnerable than a child in its Mother's womb? The very place that should be a safe haven has become a killing field.

And we think the Jewish Holocaust was bad? 6 million died. What about the abortion Holocaust? We're past the billion mark worldwide.