Originally Posted by RAZD
Well, CTD, denial is once again rearing it's head.

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An outright lie. Recombination is not mutation, not random, and it is absolutely a design feature of life.
Which would be easy to demonstrate with actual evidence if you had any.
So I need to repost the same links so they can be ignored?

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There are at least 3 other forms of recombination. My memory's not the best, but ...
Really? You do know that you can google a topic or use wikipedia to refresh those aging gray cells, yes?
Ah, people can look these things up? Why then should I repost the links? Please make up your mind before you offer advice.

And for the record, I recommend folks doing their own research on this. Shortcuts like wiki aren't the best route, either. I don't think I need to post links to evosites where they conspire to edit bias and disinformation into wiki (and worse), and even an honest researcher could settle for a superficial view which omits the more important aspects.

There is more than one type of recombination, and most sources focus on one type exclusively. Add up all the currently-known types and phases (recombination ensures that each sperm and each egg is an individual, even before the recombination stage which occurs at conception), add in gene expression, and one can get a picture of the real source of variety.

And you need to read your own sources.
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The RAD51 protein is required for mitotic and meiotic recombination and the DMC1 protein is specific to meiotic recombination.

You want folks to believe I'm making up meiotic recombination, right? Mighty clumbsy.

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The mitotic crossover results in the production of homozygous allele combinations in all heterozygous genes that are located on that chromosome arm distal to the crossover. Thus when a mitotic crossover occurs, genes that were previously recessive are expressed creating a new phenotype.
Another "creationist myth", gene expression, is real too. Notice that gene expression and recombination work as a tag team to help life efficiently adapt to its surroundings.

Even if one could spare a few hundred thousand years waiting for just the right magic mutation to crop up, there's no need. Usually within a couple or three generations the adaptations are provided from pre-existing DNA already designed to deal with the contingency.

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Even this kind of recombination does not occur all kinds of cells. In all cases, however, it is a form of mutation, change, to the DNA of an organism.
Now you try to redefine 'mutations' to include recombination, just in case folks discover recombination is real. Fat chance!

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It is, of course, possible that I overstated the case, but the fact remains: recombination is one type of genetic mutation, and no amount of howling on your part will change that simple fact.
I'm telling you this won't work. Even the vast majority of evolutionists recognize that recombination isn't mutation (that is, those evolutionists who know that there is such a thing as recombination).

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No you can't. And you wouldn't do it honestly if you could.
Actually it has been done, many times, in the process of doing normal lab experiments in biology. The fact that you cannot accept this reality is not the fault of the facts, but of your cognitive dissonance.
All anyone has is guesstimates of mutation rates. They can't count them accurately at all, let alone evaluate them.

This is one of the silliest red herrings in recent memory. And I note that rather than providing counts of mutations, you provide counts of critters who have the mutation. Um, that ain't the same thing.

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LOL! The evolutionists have been trying to fool folks into thinking the white blood cells mutate and evolve for some time now.
Curiously, I know from personal experience that you are absolutely wrong. I am a survivor of Lymphoma, a cancer where your white blood cells mutate and became cancerous and - if ignored - will kill you. You, on the other hand, are foolish and ignorant if you think that your obviously ill-informed opinion means squat about reality.
That doesn't sound like evolution to me.

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And who'd bother killing all these bacteria if they didn't already know some were probably going to survive?
Because that is how science is done, CTD, hypothesis are tested against reality. It is what makes it different from opinion based on faith and mythology.
You snipped that out just to make it look like I can be talked down to by the likes of yourself? Classic!

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