I'm not going to thoroughly read all the griping here. I was asking for someone to discuss the flood with me, since that is what this thread is about. We started the discussion in the History Rules thread if anyone wants to look at what's already been said. Can either of you present evidence for a global flood, or are you going to continue to evade the question? Can any of you asnwer the questions I asked CTD about this, since nothing from him is forthcoming?

Are you obliged to present evidence for your views? Well yes, if you want to present creationism as scientifically legitimate and having a place in the curriculum outside of religious education. Ad hominem comments do not produce a viable argument for this.

This thread's purpose is to discuss the flood. I'm here to discuss it. I've said to Russ before that if he wants to blissfully ignore reality, he can make a creationists' corner and ban evolutionists from it. Otherwise, if there's a case for a reasoned argument to be made against what's being said here, this forum is open for people to do so. If you are rock-solid with your beliefs and can explain why you hold them, then there's no reason to take offense when someone questions them is there? Or maybe you'd prefer to try to explain why you are talking on this forum yet it's reasonable for you not to give any evidence for your views other than that you're narked at people here who question them using evidence from the real world, and wish we'd go away?