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Can you start chelation without amalgam removal? I can't find a good answer on the internet.

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Hi. This is pretty controversial. You will find many contradicting statements about this and even chelation in general. Some have tried to chelate with amalgams still in and have gotten worse. Others have tried and have improved and claim it's probably what keeps them going!

It really does differ for each person. We have a member on here who chelates with amalgams still in "sosick" and it has obviously helped her tremendously. I cannot vouch whether it would help others or not.

Normally it's not advised, as some claim that it encourages further uptake of mercury from amalgams, due to the chelating agent appearing in the saliva and pulling even more out of amalgams and into the system. Others believe that the ongoing daily assault from mercury going into the system from amalgams SHOULD require some kind of agent to help grab hold of that mercury and help the body start to get rid of it before it continues buildling up and making them ill....

So you can see, it is not overly clear which way is best. I personally followed Andrew Hall Cutler's protocol in the end when I was mercury toxic and I got much better. His protocol was much easier tolerated by me and safer, so I was able to get on with getting mercury out without just about going insane with symptoms. He does not advise chelating with amalgams.

However, when I had amalgams, I found that a very good healthy candida diet (sugar free, yeast free, wheat/gluten free) was a DRAMATIC help for me to help with the symptoms of mercury and yeast problems, plus gave my body the nutrients it required to cope with the assault of mercury and helped it detox easier. I was lucky that even though I had candida, I could still tolerate some high carbohydrate foods like some fruit intake etc. Though I had to keep it relatively low because they too have potential to feed yeast, particularly in those very suseptible and have a bad case of it. You may, if you haven't done this already, find it helps you also.

Dr Hal Huggins suggests that a mercury toxic person makes sure they also remove sugar, wheat/gluten products, caffeine and milk from their diet (wheat is apparently treated with mercury fungicide, gluten is a big problem on it's own and can cause illness, caffeine and milk apparently can hinder mercury excretion, plus caffeine strains the adrenals as well, and milk contains lactose that can feed yeast potentially). Although at that time, I was lucky and could still have "some" milk (in my cereals and tea).

Hal recommends a mercury toxic person makes sure they consume enough proteins from eggs and meats and also animal fats (like butter) to aid healing. He believes butter is a natural chelator for mercury believe it or not. He believes it is protective also and fats are necessary for hormones and other functions inside the body. Low/no fat/protein diet, especially for a mercury poisoned person can be harmful and they were to me too. However, it's about consuming the right kind of fats and Dr Weston Price is a great one to read about on the internet with his findings about the healthiest cultures around the world and the healthiest fats. Steer clear of plant oils. Although extra virgin olive oil is fine. The best are butter, lard, extra virgin olive oil, mercury free fish oil, flaxseed oil, organic virgin coconut oil etc.

Stay away from fish. Even those low in mercury may still potentially cause problems and hinder your body in excreting it's own mercury. Better to use a mercury free fish oil supplement.

I also used to take garlic supplements with amalgams and did just fine. It also helped my candida and I believe gave me a bit of extra sulfur (which mercury competes with). Some say it is a chelating agent in itself. However, I could not handle garlic after all my amalgams were removed and found it caused horrible detox symptoms that I could not tolerate. So I cannot figure out why it was great WITH amalgams in and almost protective, yet caused problems after they were out. I assume that my body was already trying to dump mercury, from having no amalgams anymore and the garlic was just too much and mobilised more than I could handle.

It depends on the person. You never know what you will handle and what stages you might handle it. What works now, may not work later on. It's strange, but so much can alter the whole picture.

I found that Andrew Hall Cutler's book "amalgam illness, Diagnosis and treatment" was one of the best books i ever bought on this illness and his chelating protocol was the best for me personally. I tried many other chelating agents and often indiscrimmantly (wrong way of using them) and made myself horribly sick for a LONG time. It takes a long time to recover if you've moved mercury all over the place and it's easy to do when you are post amalgam removal and your body is already trying to dump the storage of mercury.

Sorry I can't be more helpful. If you can, do embark on a amalgam removal with a reputable biologic dentist. I don't know if I would rush in and get a whole pile done in one sitting, as there is always risk of further exposure to mercury vapor during removal. But I would definitely get them out if you can. Unless you are allergic to alternative materials (plastics etc). Do not get them removed by a general dentist or in a speedy unprotected fashion, you will likely live to regret it. A few on here have been devastated by it and the damage may not be so easy to repair once it's done.

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Probably better to say you can use chelators (EDTA/DMSA/DMPS, whatever) to clean up your blood.

Probably not wise to do 'rounds' eg Andy Cutler style. Just use some chelators in the evening before bed till you can get the amalgams out. It'll help a lot.

I would get a metallic tatse in my mouth with the DMPS but always felt amazing wonderful the next day. as long as a chelator is in your bloodstream the mercury won't rest anywhere.

Your body is always trying to get rid of it anyway, adding a chelator to the mix to bind what's already in your bloodstream really won't make any difference in that respect.

But don't do 'rounds' you'll only wear yourself out with it.

Eat plenty pf green veggies, the fresher the better. Drink plenty of water. Colon cleanse.


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