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I'm perusing this very informative forum you have and caught where you use Mercola's protocol or at least have a link to his mercury detox protocol. He has good information, but uses cilantro and his protocol goes against what Andy Cutler warns with chelating. Just curious what the deal is with that? I was on his forum for years and there was a lot of bantering back and forth concerning using more natural methods for, I guess, natural chelating, (like with minerals and seaweed which Algin is). I believe in Andy's book - have talked to him personally - but never have felt up to chelating even after I got my amalgam all out. Tried it, but it is hard. I have a host of problems, too, and am thinking, for now, of just getting back on the seaweed. Forgot what its called....it was developed by Russians suffering from the Chernoble effects of radiation. I am not doing well overall. LOTS of pain. Lipids out of whack. Thyroid issues, Fibromyalgia. Back and neck issues. Trying to get motivated again. My Doc put me on Lexapro which I took about 3 days and searched for side effects and found a website called "The Road Back." I don't care to go that route so stopped. I do take meds to deal with pain, insomnia, etc. etc. I've been the anti-depressant route, though, with elavil and scares me. I've been eating wrong, though, and interesting Mercola's site also talks about staying away from foods my blood type warns me off of, too. I feel so much worse when I have wheat, dairy or sugar. (Had pizza last night and a peppermint patty...) I was doing so good for a while. Slimmed down but feel like all my nerves are on fire. [color:"green"] [/color]Jeanie <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cry.gif" alt="" />

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Hi Jeanie, <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/welcomesign.gif" alt="" />

Welcome to the forum! Yes people use different protocols depending on the success they have and most stick to what works for them. I have been using and alternative heavy metal detox supplement by Extreme Health USA. It has worked well for me. I have been using it since December of last year. It does not contain EDTA, DMSA or DMPS but it does contain Alpha Lipoic Acid. I like it because I can control my intake and because it's mild I don't have to worry about going over board. Nice and steady.

http://www.extremehealthusa.com/source.html

I also use Algin and Modiflan. Modiflan was used by the Russians for Chernobyl too. Is that what you are referring too? They have both helped me a great deal along with drybrushing, parasite/colon cleansing, Vitamin C, and supporting my adrenal glands.

http://www.modifilan.com/

I was also recommended taking Lexapro but I felt terrible and so much so I decided I would rather go through the panic attacks that feel the effects of Lexapro. Was a bad experience for me. Well since finishing my last parasite and colon cleanse, I feel much better and the panic attacks and palpitations have almost disappeared. But I have been feeling much better lately and have not tried the metal challenge test. I'm afraid I might have a reaction to it and so I am hesitant. I plan to do a lung, liver and kidney cleanse but am hesitant to start those yet until I am certain I will be able to handle them. I also do magnetic clay baths that have also helped me get toxins out. I have tried many things but these are the things that have helped me. Hope you find whatever works for you and stick with it. Good luck. angelbaby26



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Jeanie, you need to go on a very low carb diet. Avoid all sugar , alcohol, starches, fruits, and starchy vegetables. Make sure that you take plenty of vitamin c, b vitamins, magnesium, calcium, and vitamin D. I recently started taking 2000 IU a day of vitamin D. I also started eating raw garlic again, one clove after each meal cut into small pieces and washed down with plenty of water. I also increased my intake of licorice tea to two cups a day. I am using the Yogi Egyptian Licorice Tea, which has several other antifungal herbs besides just licorice. I also eat plain lowfat yogurt with active cultures.


Raw garlic is amazing stuff.

http://www.greenze.com/2007/08/17-benefits-of-organic-raw-garlic-how-it-can-improve-your-health/

I suggest you avoid cilantro. Its effects are unpredictable. Perhaps it might be okay for someone after a year or two of chelation, but not while they are very mercury toxic.

i am doing much better today, since starting to eat raw garlic again yesterday. Perhaps you should try it? The first two times I took it yesterday I had a very strong reaction to it, but today the reaction to it was much more mild. I feel like I am breathing better today than yesterday, as I had a nasty nasal drip yesterday before the garlic.




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Hi Jeanie,

I worked out that Andy Cutler was accurate in how he described the effects created by mobilising mercury and how most natural agents work by doing this, rather than gripping onto mercury strongly enough and then using a method that would keep the process as even as possible without moving mercury around unpredictably. Which is why he developed the frequent dosing protocol. It keeps the chelating agent even in the blood stream, thereby moving mercury in the same manner.

Natural agents might be great for some, but it's the action of mercury that is the danger, so natural agents can be a problem for that reason alone. E.g. using garlic supplementation may create a severe reaction due to the high sulfur content and ability to move mercury, as can chlorella, MSM, etc. Some do wonderfully on them, others may not. It's so individual. HOwever, I believe that we do require sulfur, as mercury competes with it in the body and depletes it, just as it does with iodine and selenium, All things things I truly believe are necessary to replace. Problem is, in replacing them in too high amounts when we are very mercury toxic, it can create a massive displacing and mobilising of mercury, which can then allow mercury to migrate to more sensitive areas (possibly even the brain). So hence why many people get increased symptoms when taking these supplements or high sulfur foods etc. I would not personally use high sulfur supplements, unless you are certain you can handle even the sulfur foods like eggs, garlic, onions, leek, broccoli etc with no "too" bad reactions.

When I was very mercury toxic, I recall how sulfur would REALLY increase the symptoms and bounce the mercury around all over the place and leave me with increased crying and salivating etc. It was also painful to go through, although sure some mercury no doubt came out in the process. I even had it from consuming cabbage etc. Eggs, anything, which is why I had to be careful. As I became less toxic, I was much more tolerable of sulfur. Other mercury toxic people find sulfur to be marvellous, they thrive on it, so you really never know how you'll react. Perhaps also it's down to sensitivity to the mercury itself and how well your elimination organs are functioning. What is mobilised out and around maybe then quickly excreted by a pretty well functioning detox system. Others may not be so lucky.

I always found cutler's protocol to be the most tolerable and safe for me, but again it was not easy. It is always stressful to chelate mercury, no matter how well you do it and you can really stress yourself from doing it. Though...not doing it is not great either as the mercury stays there poisoning you.....I think diet (as JK said) is HIGHLY important to help your gut and liver (which are needed for detox) reducing high levels of yeast (which occur with mercury) and improving immunity and reducing symptoms. Avoiding sugar, wheat/gluten and yeast is paramount. Wheat is treated apparently with mercury fungicide, which is why when I used to eat, I would get almost immediately poisoning symptoms! Also the gluten acts like a glue for those who cannot digest it properly and causes toxic waste apparently. So it's a big problem for many. Sugar lowers immunity, feeds yeast and does all manner of awful things. Avoid it! Yeast can create problems too in candida, allergy reactions and more immune suppression because of it. Which in the end can feed yeast, indirectly.

Any moulds/yeasts may cause reactions, so I'd avoid them. High carb natural foods may or may not be ok, depending on how severe you have candida. I used to do just fine on limited fruit and high carb vegetable and gluten free grain intake. But nowadays I do not and have to avoid ALL high carb foods (potatoes, corn, peas, beans, grains of all kinds, fruits, etc). Also be careful of milk (due to lactose). Caffeine is a bad one too. Both intefere with mercury detox and can strain adrenals.

The best foods for me are meat, eggs, butter (as Dr Hal Huggins suggest for mercury toxic people), animal fats are actually very beneficial, whereas plant oils like canola are bad. Olive oil is great though. Coconut oil is great. Fish oil (mercury free) and flaxseed oil are also helpful. Low carb vegetables can be eaten freely, as can eggs and meat. I also have raw nuts (almonds/brazil) raw seeds (sunflower/pumpkin) and acidophilus sugar free plain yoghurt. I add my flaxseed oil to my yoghurt (about one or two teaspoons a time). Really nice.

I drink mainly herbal tea, but sometimes have black tea. I steer clear of coffee, it's a baddie! I do not have any milk either. My diet is limited, but necessary and it's the only way I can function with my ongoing chronic viral infection and immune problems. Even mercury didn't do this much to me! Though it was horrible due to the poisoning, I could still eat more freely and was stronger too and responded much better to efforts than I do these days.

Definitely work on the diet if you're not already and make sure to get plenty of proteins and animal fats, which really do help. Please read Dr Weston Price's studies if you haven't already (google it). What an eye opener! HIs diet really is excellent, I Find it faultless and also fits in with the bible diet well too. God had it right all along!


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