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It's encouraging to think I may be doing something worthwhile & not just vainly pursuing an obsession to attack every lie I encounter.

You are doing something, and to some degree that's appreciated - even by your adversaries in the debate: you're showing us your side of the argument. You're sharing us your beliefs and (at least at times) explaining what logic (and at other times lack thereof) has lead you to accept these things.

So too are the other posters from the evolutionist side "doing something wortwhile". This isn't a war and, at least as far as I can tell judging by the title of this forum, this isn't a "Creationism is Right and Evolution is Wrong" discussion board. Rather, it's a "What do you think" debate. Everyone who contributes (particularly those who do so in a constructive and polite manner) is "doing something worthwhile".

But it is a war. Falsehoods add up quickly & lead to things like
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Whether correct or incorrect, we as humans should be free to study the theory of evolution and see what we can learn from it. If you want it abolished in schools then you sure as sh*t better expect YOUR religion to be abolished as well. Religion is for adults anyway. Raising children under a religion is inhumane brainwashing.
Which, if allowed to spread leads to violence against families.

Those following the news have seen plenty of where these things lead. Labeling people "polygamists" was claimed to be all the justification needed to abduct children in Texas. Of course the law says otherwise, but that's subject to change or just being ignored. In practice, there's nobody enforcing laws which restrict the state. There are restrictions, but they are ignored with complete impunity.

Texas state officials seem to be a little more reserved than the feds who slaughtered innocent children on the grounds that they were in the custody of a cult; but the general idea's the same: labeled persons & those in their company have no rights.

Of course this sort of thing could easily backfire on those who practice it. But I can't argue in favor of such scenarios because such arguments'd be lawless, illogical and wrong. Instead, I maintain that the practice of labeling & persecuting anyone and everyone associated with the label should be stopped.

The honest reader will note that this has nothing to do with which labels are involved. The dishonest will say I'm arguing in favour of cults. I don't care how bad a cult is, the justification for attacking innocent persons does not exist. It's actually the duty of government to protect all innocent persons to the best of its ability. But nobody seems to remember such obligations.

We are indeed at war, and our enemy is the one who blinds people's eyes and whispers lies in their ears.


Dark Matter + Dark Energy = Dark Truth

"We find that such evidence demonstrates that the ID argument is dependent upon setting a scientifically unreasonable burden of proof for the theory of evolution." - Judge Jones Kitzmiller case
http://www.talkreason.org/articles/Falsify.cfm

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