First of all, just wanted to say So Sick is a valubale member of this forum, rpobbaly more than msyelf, and it's not my intention to get her banned or anything, but I'm not the first one to be offended by her attitude towards people thus I'd like to bring it to public attention.

I always thought of this forum, and I believed most people here shared my view, as FRST OF FOREMOST a place of understanding and TOLERANCE as we all have been dismised by dcotros and even family members and our very deep chronicsufefring has often been dismissed. That's why I always valued this place, because of the appreication - not focus on- of suffering and the deep understandig of folks around here of it. That being said I think 'not passing judegement' has always been the basis for the existence of this forum, as many of us had been judged, mocked ourselves for thinking we are poisoned. Of course everyone is entitled to have their own say here and opinion, but the debate here should always be within respect for others, and u can respect one without trying to understand one.

I believe So Sick with her very black&white attitude keeps reccurently offending people and needs to be aware of that - cause i actually believe she does that unintentionally. She easily passes judgement onto others, and thus insults them, wthout even having any deeper understanding of their situation. She creates a climate of hostility which is not wanted here , where people need support.

Unfoertunetely seemes So Sick's view of 'support' is just exchanging advice about detoxing and stuff, not emotional/spiritual support. A typical judgemental so sick scenario is when she conveys contempt at people who she thinks - not having enough knowlegde to say so - are not getting better because they are plain lazy, and not because they are not responding as well to natural treatments as the luckier others - so sick included.

There have been other cases where people where considered offened by so sick's attitude. (unfortuenetely i feel to ill to research it and provide links to those threads right now, esp since so sick is an active poster and there are many posts to browse thrugh).

Sorry for making this personal, but I think So Sick needs to be aware of the fact that as I said she creates a lot of hostility through her attitude where it is not needed. I think a lot of us are sick enough and dont need to go through more, just because a person is not openminded about some things enough. It's her right, but she doesnt need to show her discontent with other's 'attitudes' IF THOSE ATTITUDES DONT OFFEND other people. It appears she's seeing things only from her own viewpoint.

So Sick, I just wnated u to know that for somebody who bares a nickname like that you have very little appreciation and recognition of suffering. Cause if u had u wouldn't be addresing people the way you are.

got a link after all:

http://herballure.com/ubbthreads/sh...in=253184&Search=true#Post253403

and the recent threads:
"Parasite & bowel cleanse & mucoid plaque"
"F**K THIS LIFE."

Exactly who do you think you're kidding jinx?

If I showed up here spouting profanities like you I'd get a kick in the behind in 5 minutes flat for being unChristian and you know it. Or you would know it if you bothered to give 30 seconds of real thought past the nose on your own face.

follow your own advice and learn to tolerate me.

Last time anyone gave you spiitual insight you spat and cursed at them. take a good look at yourself.

Jinx, as you have evidently seen from the link you posted here, these kinds of comments don't get us anywhere on this forum. Instead of singling out a member to talk about, why don't we support each other the way you describe?

I haven't been reading on this particular forum much lately, but I know you've had a hard time. Have you had your adrenals or thyroid tested? Any other tests you've had? If you can't find the support of a doctor then there are private tests you can get, and other support forums you can join. I know how easy it is to give in to the frustration but for me, at the end of the day, the best thing I can do for myself is to rsearch options and try to learn about what's likely to be wrong with me. It's taken 4 years and I'm tremendously disgruntled with the British NHS, but I've learned so much along the way.

I think we need to help you find a direction to pursue at the moment. Are you working on anything in particular, apart from mercury?

Linda.

linda I'm basically trying to just survive right now. Thank u for your time and I appreciate your help, but its unneccsary and futile as i dont have much options or money to do anyting, my hands are tied, and besides so sick will be rambling in a moment how much attention I seek if we discuss my case, and she's right in a way that I'm a waste of time for you guys cause my health case is so messed up I'm at a complete loss what might be going on with me except mercury, so it's all just basic survival now.

And you're right trying to have a debtae with so sick dont gets us nowhere realy, but I've had enough of her constant insulting people all over and had to post this.

I've been there too -- just trying to survive day to day. The problem is that it tends to stay that way unless we take some action. I also had a long period where I didn't have much money and despaired that I'd ever be well. Things aren't quite so bleak at the moment.

I engaged in dramatics all my life and had them big-time when I came off my antidepressant. I was a whirlwind of panic and despair. The only place it got me was adrenal exhaustion. The people on my withdrawal and recovery list were pretty harsh with me and kept telling me to keep a level head and extricate my emotions from the situation as well as I was able. It took a long time to learn this and I'm still learning, but I think it's important to do in order to make progress with a problem.

Please understand that I mean well by saying this, but I see a lot of posts from you here that are despairing and full of drama. I'd like to see more that are asking for help with a way forward. There are a lot of people here who are willing to help you with this and who would like to see you feeling better. Just let us know when you feel ready to have a dialogue about this.

Best wishes,
Linda.

linda, that's the thing I'm trying to get to people, that's not about focusing on drama INSTEAD OF seeking practical solustions, of course pratcical solutions are the answer to the problem! But sometimes due to illness your are stuck no matter wat. You ve been here long enough linda to know toxicity issues are not psychological, if it affects your brain enough to screw your thinking your planning etc then its IMPOSSIBLE to plan your next move. Hence the frustration, hence the "f* this and that" posts, it's NOT about CHOOSING self-pity and drama OVER practical solutions. So sick will probably find it hard to believe but I was never pro-drama, always found it fruitless. But dramatising is when u can do things but u choose drama. But I was never against keeping extreme suffering inside oneself either. And aside from mental issues that are restraining you there are other, like financial. So if you're really STUCK and nor responidng depsiete EFFORTS then what can you do other than vent? Cause I guess killing yourself would be the other option.

I know u mean well Linda and I'm really grateful for your trying to help but unfortunetely some people dont understand how extremely difficult at times other's situation is. I know your problem was depression, well my problem is not depression but really bad cognitive function which is bordeline schizophrenic most of the time and that's different. I had clinical depression once a few years ago (now know due to candida probably) and that was the time i managed to find myself a job despite that. And I'm not bellittling anyone's experience att all just saying everyone's case is different and seeming dramatizing is just proportional to one's suffering.

And yes I will focus on pratcical stuff once i get some mental ground back, cause I know all people here (even so sick) are a valuble source of help and information, and we need to educate ourselves to get better. But without that mental ground? You're stuck one way or another.

Yesterday I finished (surprise surprise so sick, the self-pittying me was actually doing something at the time) an ala round - first one since a long time cause i couldnt handle chelation - and did an enema like an hour ago and I found writing this partcular post a bit easier than the previous. will see how i will feel tomorrow or the next day, maybe todays a good sign just dont wanna be prematurely optimistic cause been let down many times (which for so sick's record: is not negativity but cautiousness in jumping to conclusions).